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Old 06-10-2009, 08:23 AM   #34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbrrmike View Post
so its bigger...........you cant just pick length and say the car is smaller
I agree with Mike. It is bigger. Both in reality and to the eye.

Yes, it is 2.8” shorter than a 4th gen, mostly because 4th gens have noses inspired by Sarah Jessica Parker, it is 2.9” taller and 1.4” wider and ~400 pounds heavier.

During a similar discussion at NastyZ I threw this info together while I watched a Yankee game.
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
It's the width & height that make this thing look so damn big too, along with the high belt line. I guess the down side of being based on a 4 dr chassis. IMO it is still maybe 400 pounds too heavy. At least it (and the occupants) will survive a hit way better than the older ones and the HP & MPG and clean tail pipe emissions too. The V6 car continues to impress. The better V6 handling numbers IMO show the adverse impact of the unsprung weight of SUV sized wheels & tires, although I could be at least partially wrong on that.

I still have hopes of buying a 2012 model.

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From my Camaro white book (except weight as noted)

Code:
Year	WB	Len	Ht	Width	Weight (wt data source)
1967	108.0	184.6	51.0	72.5	3393 (based on white book data incl common options)
1970	108.0	188.0	50.1	74.4	3313 (nastyZ, unknown options)
1974	108.0	195.4	49.1	74.4	3840 (nastyZ, unknown options)
1982	101.0	187.8	49.8	72.0	3273 (92 Z28 HT, 3rdgen.org, unknown options)
1993	101.1	193.2	51.3	74.1	3577 (02 Camaro jalopnik, unknown options)
2010	112.3	190.4	54.2	75.5	3860 (GM, 1SS 6 speed)
I'll tell you how I backed into 67 weight number. All from the Camaro White Book.

I tried to compare a similarly optioned car to the 2010 1SS Coupe:
Code:
V8 Hardtop	3070
...then add...
PW		21
AC		86
PB		20
Fr Discs	33
350		72
DUEL EXH	38
PS		29
HD BATTERY	15
AM-FM		9
		-----
	 	3393

Or w/o PW or AC
V8 Hardtop	3070 
...then add...
PB		20
Fr Discs	33
350		72
DUEL EXH	38
PS		29
HD BATTERY	15
AM-FM		9
		-----
	 	3286
Your results may vary. LOL

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
You are thinking of the Challenger.

Code:
					LS Coupe	1LT Coupe	2LT Coupe	1SS Coupe	2SS Coupe

Curb weight, manual,   lbs. (kg) 	3780 (1715) 	3741 (1697) 	3741 (1697) 	3860 (1751) 	3860 (1751)
Curb weight, auto,     lbs. (kg) 	3769 (1710) 	3750 (1701) 	3750 (1701) 	3913 (1775) 	3913 (1775)
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