kids today have no idea what abuse is. i wont make any excuses for my son when im out in public, if he acts up he knows what he's gonna get. i dont beat him but ill be damned if a smack across the ass doesnt wisen him right up. the funny thing is, i havent had to lay across his ass very often either, just mentioning he's gonna get in trouble puts the red right back on his ass in his mind