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Originally Posted by Tsar
Um...I wasn't arguing that other car manufacturers don't make mistakes. I simply gave Toyota props for fixing an issue they manufactured before too many people die (has anyone died? I really don't know). I don't see harm in that. I like when companies admit fault and try to solve a problem.
I also said that I wish GM was like that. That's when you and Bi Gal decided that GM is holy and doesn't have to fix mistakes they make, UNLESS people die. I simply provided some information when A LOT of people died, GM paid a ton of money to settle their cases, and still issued no recall. That's irresponsible. The fact is, 9 years PRIOR to installment of the FIRST side saddle gas tank GM already has done research on it, and determined that it shouldn't be there (I can post up another memo). But hey, profits are more important!
But yea, everybody makes mistakes, it's how you handle them (mistakes) that shapes your image in the eyes of the public, and to me, GM has failed, miserably.
Before someone points me to some other recall by some other company - don't bother, I know they exist, and it is not what I'm arguing about here.
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Yeah, a few people died (I think). I know of at least one.
I certainly do not think GM is holy. I am still very skeptical about purchasing from them. I just think that they get a raw deal based on past history. It's obvious that their previous business practices failed completely and I'd like to see them have a real shot at becoming a great automaker again. That can't happen unless their image is repaired. One way for that to happen is if some of the other automakers don't look as great.
Regarding the no deaths/no recall- I did not mean that there should not be a recall unless somebody dies. I meant that it's unfortunate that bean counters keep recalls from being issued unless people are hurt.
Admittedly I know very little about the side saddle gas tank deal. It certainly sounds like GM dropped the ball. What I find a little hard to believe is that 1800 people died and a bigger deal was not made of this. The engineers should have been found guilty of criminal negligence or something like that. I'll have to read up more on it for sure.