The sticker idea is stupid. The rest of the GDL rules are fine. Now they can start making plans for seniors. I’m going lazy and regurgitation my thoughts from
the last time this came up. And to all you guys with big ideas like increased testing better behind the wheel or anything that costs money, take note of the state budget crisis and comments like "NJDMV is so crappy. $4 for stickers?". People are cheap, and are already taxed to the gills for programs.
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Graduated licenses are good, now they need to enforce them. Last I read it's a secondary offense so cops can't pull a group of kids over simply because there is a kid driving when he is not supposed to be (late night, car full of kids, etc).
Every time I've looked at per mile crash stats, it's like this:
I don't have actual stats handy right now, so I paraphrased what I have read.
that is why policies skyrocket when driving aged kids are around. The numbers are staggering. I had fun with the wording, but the graph is on the money. |
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
…BTW, they are going hard after kids 1st because they don't vote or really pay taxes like the 65+ up AARP crowd. Once the kid laws are firmly in place then the AARP has less of an argument for cracking down on the older drivers. Politics matter, and the stats bear out the actions.
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
I already said I'm not sure a tag is worth anything, but it's not like a cop can't see a kid is driving. But kids today are not paying attention to the laws. I read an article in the paper a few months ago where a reporter sat in a high school parking lot and counted the cars driven by students with 3+ kids in the car, which appears to be against the provisional license law. But the cops cannot pull them over just for that. So how do you guys propose the get kids to adhere to the laws?
You cry all day about kids not being treated fairly, but the fact it is just like a credit report. If you have no history it is as bad as having a bad history. Kids have no history, so you judge them by statistical fact. And the facts show kids crash a lot. Welcome to being a grown up. Life can be unfair, deal with it.
That graph I made up before, well, here is a real one from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. I wasn't too far off, huh? Stats have not changed much over the years I guess.
And a big part of fatality part for the elderly is they are old and don't heal as easy.
http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/older_people.html
http://www.iihs.org/research/topics/teenagers.html
And to those asking why the state is 'wasting time' with this, it's called car insurance rates. Lower those ends of that curve and rates go down for all of us. Then politicians can claim they helped push rates down and get re-elected. After the work over the young, then they can use the data to institute programs geared towards the older drivers. By then you guys will be old and be pissed they are targeting older drivers. I giggle at the irony.
Fact is young and old people get in the most accidents by far. You have to handle the kids first because they don't vote and don't pay taxes - no politician has lost his job due to pissing off teenagers. That's life, get over it or go cry in the corner. I say screw the stickers and just let cops pull over cars by making provisional license primary offenses. |
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
Trying to argue with a teenager and tell him that he doesnt know everything is like trying to nail jelly to the wall. They're just going to turn around and say "yes we do" or as in the case of some of the arguments here "other teenagers don't know everything, but I know I do"…I still don't know everything. But when you finally admit that to yourself and get off your own high horse, then you stop being a danger to the people in the other lanes.
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I just quoted this so I could again say ha ha, you’re growing up!