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Old 09-11-2010, 10:02 AM   #38
Slow-V6
 
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Originally Posted by qwikz28 View Post
relax dude. everyone wants to improve their car, it's why we mod them. Since the time I took possession of it, more than 8 years ago, chassis stiffness has come along way, and all I'm saying is that it would be nice if someone made a solution besides subframe connectors which people still argue whether they even produce a benefit.

And like Keith said, shocks and chassis stiffness go a long way on our cars. Most of the time, they handle better than a BMW when set up properly. I think the issue here though is the overall package, and why GM cheaped out on things such as our ho-hum interior and doo-doo shocks and aging chassis. For example, BMW changes their chassis with every redesign. I'm glad GM is now starting to take suspension tuning seriously though. The CTS and Camaro are prime examples of how far it has come.
I am fine with my cars. I know there strengths and there weakness. My car has full suspension except for shocks and springs. It handles better then it did stock but I know its limits. I knew when I bought it that it would never handle like a BMW M3 but I didnt care. Yes I like to mod my car to improve it just like you but it seems that you have reached that point were no matter what else you do to your car it will not be what you want it to be.

Pontiac put out the Fiero in the 80's to be a great cornering car. That car lasted what 2 yrs. The US wasnt interested in it and only cared mostly about going fast in a straight line. There were special packages for f-body cornering like the 1LE, Firehawk,Comp T/A but thats what they stayed. Special editions. My 95 Firehawk could handle as well as a 95 Vette but they only made 600 copies. Why? Gm built these cars to what the people wanted. Cheaper fast straight line cars that looked good, handled better then a mustang, and felt like a sports car. Thats my take on them. The reason the interiors are not up to par with BMW and the Shocks are not up to par with BMW is becuase the cars were 20-30k cheaper then a BMW to begin with.

A 91 Firehawk was a 40K plus car brand new and I bet it could handle with a BMW M3. Thats because its closer to a BMW in that aspect. There was also a reason why only 25 or so of them were made. Most people didnt want to drop 40 grand on a F-body.

Just want to make sure I am clear. What your pissed about is that a F-body is not up to the same quality as a BMW and GM never did anything about it. Why would GM make a F-body to BMW specs when they have the Corvette and the Caddies?
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