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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Eh, it's really not quite like that. Feel free to laugh openly, but I'm not one of the guys who feels that civilization was doomed the day they cut the compression ratio of the LS-6. Thing is, I deal with misbranding, bad positioning, and the like all the time in the MR industry. Right now it appears to me that the Z28 nameplate has much better recall: ask a joe off the street what a ZL1 is and they probably won't know, but they will know a Z28. GM has a lot of good vibes from the past in their naming, they just have to leverage it correctly.
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Z28 has bigger impact, no doubt. Its that VERY reason I didnt want this car to be called Z28. People complain about GM just slapping badges on anything just for the hell of it. This here shows that they took history and enthusiasts into account, since they will be the ones that spread the word of mouth on this car. This car is not for the average joe, or for Nasty's girlfriend.
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From a positioning standpoint, it seems like the new ZL1 is in a bit of a tough spot- it's got a lot of competition from three fronts. First, internal stuff like the ZR-1 and the V. Yeah, pricing is different but to a lot of people that can afford it it's not that big a jump. Second, external stuff from other brands. Challenger, Shelby, etc. Third, places like SLP who are already offering those types of power levels, and people homebuilding stuff. So if they want this to be a hit, I think they need something that sets it apart from the rest of the pack, and (in my opinion) the place to do that is under the hood, where you can play on the old school vibe of the RPO. It doesn't matter if you are selling cars or cheeseburgers. Something's got to be there to make people want to buy your product over someone else's.
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So because of competition, they should not do this? That is ANOTHER thing that people bash GM on. They dont go far enough, they dont do certain things when others are doing it. When Ford was pumping out Mustangs from 03 to 09, GM got bashed for NOT making a Camaro.
So because some guy can bolt on a supercharger in his garage means that GM should avoid making this car? That is the worst logic in the history of the automotive world. If you think this, then GM should bail out of the mid-sized car arena and let Accord and Camry do its thing.
A ZL1, a Z06, and a CTS-V owner are 3 different people
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If you are done that's cool and I'll STFU about it. I am being honest when I am saying I am just trying to understand what they are trying to accomplish, because it looks like they took their kickass engine, dropped it in the Camaro, slapped a vintage emblem on it, and let 'er rip without thinking about much else. Naming aside I am very impressed with it.
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WHA!! You do not understand this car at all. They didnt just drop an engine in a car and hoped for the best.