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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
how come youre allowed to grab 5 straws but i cant grab a few more than you. if you wanna reach, by all means lets reach. if you look into statistics most dont include marijuana users in their lists of ''addicts''. either way, if you wanna make the gateway argument like you did before i could say the same thing about alcohol and tobacco. ive tried them before i tried marijuana...and theyre legal  |
Me and frosty-poo were talking about the city of Amsterdam being the land of sunshine and puppies, as per his moms visit there. I said it wasn't the case and pointed that they have plenty of drug related problems. I did not bring MJ into the argument, but if you must MJ is an illegal drug. Even in Amsterdam.. it might be punishable by a slap on the wrist but it is still considered illegal in certain quantities. Last time I checked smoking was legal, and I can order 1000 cartons of cigs and be a-ok. I can also go to a liquor store and buy a truck load of booze, they will shake my hand and we will be a-ok. Let's not confuse the two. Furthermore, people do not go to jail for caffeine addiction, at least I have not heard of such case. Feel free to dig up a case or two.
Smoking and alcohol is a gateway drug? To some sure, to some breathing is a gateway drug, and I bet in the state of California oxygen has been known to cause cancer. Let's ban the damn thing, ehh? But as I have said before, those two are perfectly legal substances. Hell, smoking a cig and driving is not even illegal! omg!
I have personally engaged in a lot of smoking (cigs) and drinking since the age of 11, I'm not an addict to either. I rarely do either of them nowadays though. Drinking hasn't caused me to say "yes" to multiple offers of trying cocaine or heroin over the course of my life, most of those were "free samples" too. You can try the gateway theory all day long on me.
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Nope, it was either switzerland or sweden.
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Um..Swiss had this:
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Switzerland
Much like Amsterdam, Switzerland until recently followed a policy of decriminalization. Indeed, a city park in the town of Zurich for many years was allowed to be a haven for drug users - police simply would ignore the problem by claiming that it was better to have all the addicts in one place rather than having them roam throughout the entire city.66 Unsurprisingly, in February of 1992 Switzerland ended this experiment with decriminalization after experiencing an unacceptable increase in use, violence, crime and health costs and consequences.67 Specifically, the number of addicts residing at the park (called Platzspitz) jumped from a few hundred in 1987 to over 20,000, by early 1992.68 Approximately 20% of these addicts were foreigners who came to Zurich to take advantage of the city's lax drug laws.69 In deciding to close the park, city officials cited the increased incidence of crime and prostitution--as Andres Oehler, a municipal spokesperson stated, "it was felt that the situation had got out of control in every sense."70
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And Sweden has a zero tolerance policy for drugs.