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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

You ever taken or observed those classes? I don't know about PA but in NJ it's pretty much "hey you messed up, don't do it again" for 2 days... condone inebriation say oh thats fine just dont drive... drugs are mentioned and they dont really care... Seems like you have a fantasy world where the classes actually do something. They even straight up say "yeah most of you will be back here for a 2nd maybe 3rd time"

If he was in fact drunk this is no excuse for that, but still throwing stones about somebody who's recently deceased doesn't sit right with me

Yes I actually did go though DUI classes in Virginia with my roomate when he got his DUI. My commander made us both go though it since we lived together. It was infomative and was actually a week long if I remember correctly. Opened up my eyes to Drinking and driving. We ( Military) also had a big Saftey standown before every major holiday. Its 2 days were the hole command would got to a auditorium and get instructions on how to saftly BBQ for the 4th of July, Suicide awarness for the holidays and so on. Just about always the 2nd day was for Drunk Driving awareness. The command would have a State cop go over the laws with the entire command, they would have Marines and Sailors from our command that got DUI's go up on stage and tell there stories and what not to everyone.. 9 1/2 years of these I went though.

To me its very simple.. If you are going to drink then dont drive!! That way you know you are safe and you know that no matter what you will be @ 100% when you drive!! Am I wrong for feeling this way?

Many of my friends would come back from Iraq and just end up drinking to deal with there problems. That turned into more problems as they would get DUI's and get into alot of trouble with the Navy and get kicked out. I had another Marine buddy that was a Iraq War Vets that fought for americans overseas then when He got back got into a DUI car accident and kill a inocent person that a couple months ago He was fighting for.. He is in Levenworth for 10 years if I remember correctly on Manslaughter charges. No one memorialized him or even said he is a good person. Why is that? The guy was a real Hero in the world and now has been in prison for 5 years and forgotton about because he made a so called mistake.. That was his 1st DUI incident and I bet will be his last..

How many Drinking and driving incidents does somone have before its considered not a mistake anymore??

I also hear everyday about how bad the drivers are in NJ and Philly.. If thats true then why make it even worse but having some drinks and then driving out there with those so called bad drivers??