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Old 04-02-2012, 04:26 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 View Post
WBT, I noticed that too with the Xtra Guard filters. As far as adhesion goes with metal, you can do that without performing any major scuffing. with technology and composites that we have created today, mainly from BASF and 3M, we have created adhesives that are leaps and bound of what they were capable 10-15 years ago. Who here thinks gluing a car together would be strong and better then welding? Aston Martin is big behind building their cars and using a bonding agent instead of welding on their cars, and these adhesives are sometimes stronger the then the metal/composite itself!! It all comes down to cost in the end.
Fram's are marketed for the Box store idiots who are looking to just do an oil change, and as I said before, Fram has built up a lot of followers thanks in part to their advertising.
If Fram was so good, why doesn't any top NASCAR team use them? why Wix? Quality, plain and simple.

The end caps may not deal with oil bypassing, but you have to realize they play an integral part to the structure of the filter. What resists twisting, and deflecting less, a piece of cardboard, or a piece of steel? Enough said. There is a reason why top shops, quality restoration, and engine shops prefer Wix/NAPA over Fram. I can go all day, but I'm waiting for Honeywell's spokesman to respond to WBT and me.
See, I understand that majority of the people out there don't need a filter to handle 80psi of oil pressure and stand up to performance abuse. They probably sell way more filters to the guys just looking to save a few bucks by doing their own oil change. Most vehicles don't even have an oil pressure gauge. If you are just trying to maintain your daily beater, does it really matter? Probably not as much as some would lead you to believe. But for performance applications or something that is less "washing machine" and more "street machine" you want something that you can trust and that's well made. Regarding the end caps, I am not an adhesives engineer but if other (smaller) companies can get metal to stick to the filter material, why can't (giant) Honeywell do so for durability?

I don't buy into the "Well, so and so uses this..." either, as there's money and contracts involved all the time. NASCAR only uses Goodyear tires even though a lot of people want to run Hoosiers. Regarding OEM manufacturers, they are looking to save money too- just because it's OEM doesn't mean it's top quality. Far from it in my experience.
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