well just an idea since it seems not all of us can get to one place at the same time during the week. we all need to make it to the october meet and sit and talk about some things. just an idea. I know me, alex (even if he doesnt drive ill bring his ass), al, justin, jim, ben should all be at the meet. and anyone else i missed. I'm working a **** load of over time this week so me trying to get out of work to do something is next to impossible.