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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
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Originally Posted by TalkingGoat
Who wants to drive a car that gets great mileage if it looks and sounds like ****?
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correction: what car enthusiast wants to drive a car that gets great mileage if it looks and sounds like ****?
and Al, I've read some of the stuff out there and I know that a lot of this stuff is already on the horizon. It's all about the execution. GM has been very hit or miss with the styling of all new design vehicles in the last several years. Usually if they go for brand new ground it's a miss in my opinion. If it's something that looks familiar, it's generally better.
And as far as drivetrains are concerned, GM needs to play catch up bad as well. There should have been a fwd manual that could handle the horsepower years ago. The 4L60, 4L80, and 4T80 are all dinosaurs past their time and they should be put to rest. The 4T65 is a piece of ****, flat out. The 2.8/3.4 v6 engine family dating back to the mid 80's should be scrapped. The vortec 4.3 v6 should be scrapped. Most of the primary GM engine offerings such as the vortec v8's (ls1, etc), northstars, and the series III 3800's are aging and while they are great, something bigger and better should have come along by now to trump them. There needs to be a solid rwd irs platform set up for awd out there now since the other companies are already starting to get there.
Not that there aren't things in the works, they just aren't being timed well enough or pushed into production. launching the 04 grand prix with the 3800's was a mistake, especially since they had to bitch out on the horsepower rating on the gtp because of the 4t65e, exactly like they had to 7 years before. Not to mention still no manual option. You think 7 years would have solved those problems. The G6 sounds like it's going to be an answer to those problems, but that's just going to take people out of the grand prixs, which are a huge seller. The bonneville GXP, great looking car, but the northstar/4t80 has been done 200 times already. Doing the equinox and the upcoming pontiac torrent with the 3.4 liter v6 that dates back to the mid 80's 2.8 pos is a joke too.