Friggin idiots in Ewing! - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

JL8Jeff · 03-10-2005, 05:51 PM

Once again the geniuses that were elected in Ewing have raised our taxes. I want to know what kind of morons vote for these people that continue to lie and increase taxes every year. This year is a 7 cent per $100 of assessed value increase. That should put my property taxes over $6800 this year. They were $3600 when we moved in, that's one reason we bought the house. I don't understand who is voting for these meatheads! And how do you calculate a 1 or 2 cent increase and suddenly find out you need 7? Ahhhhhhh, I need a beer!

Tru2Chevy · 03-10-2005, 05:54 PM

...one more reason that I am so glad I live in my parent's basment rent-free

- Justin

Oddball · 03-10-2005, 07:08 PM

I am just as furious about our property taxes as your are. In five years mine have gone from 3600 to 4300. There is something we can do about it. Various groups are trying to organize the constitutional convention to rework how we colect taxes and are trying to get the spending side included as well. We NEED your help. Most of the people involved or who are vocal are retired. I am consistently one of the youngest in the room during events on the subject. We need younger people to help. Even people to be delegates should the convention happen.

Here are some websites:

http://www.state.nj.us/convention/
http://www.citizens4propertytaxreform.org/
http://www.njcpg.org/index.html

The first is the website for the taskforce that gave the recommendation in December. The second is a group I belong to. The "chair" was on the state commission and is working towards lower property taxes. If you are interested, email him and tell him Josh sent you or simply PM me.

We need the boiling-over rage of everyone to force Trenton to let this thing happen. It may not solve the problem but it is better than doing nothing. When you vote (at all levels), vote for someone who is making taxes a key issue and actually has a plan (as opposed to a douche who is all lip service).

I could write a book on the root causes but there is a lot out there. If you google "NJ Tax Convention" you'll find a lot. It is opposed by groups that like the status quo (like the teachers union) or fear the elimination of "Abbott" (the NAACP).

Josh

Squirrel · 03-10-2005, 07:27 PM

5 digits

TheWraith · 03-10-2005, 08:31 PM

your state sucks

V · 03-11-2005, 01:12 AM

we're at upwards of $8k a year here...total bs

foff667 · 03-11-2005, 07:54 AM

knock on wood but mines stayed within like $200 of when we moved in 6 years ago...but did anyone hear about nj possibly tolling 295 and such? lol ya gotta love this state.

JL8Jeff · 03-11-2005, 09:21 AM

Taxing internet purchases, increasing property taxes, increasing gas taxes, increasing toll roads. They're on a roll right now. I'm not really sure why I still live in this state.

Koll · 03-11-2005, 12:35 PM

we are ~10k.

JPiZZiJP · 03-13-2005, 05:29 PM

...and on top of it, our NJ Saver Rebate might be reduced/gone thanks to DICK Codey.

~Joe

Ant'sWS6 · 03-13-2005, 08:22 PM

6800

!! Damn! Taxes in Jersey are getting so bad. My parents are having a house built in an adult communit in Little Egg Harbor and their estimated taxes are over 7K. When I owned my houe in Rutherford my taxes were 6500 and my property was only 45x100 and the house was really small. That's what's holding me up from buying my next house.....that and having only one income to do it on.

Savage_Messiah · 03-13-2005, 09:33 PM

Well it's Ewing, maybe they meant to lower the taxes but raised them instead by accident??

skorpion317 · 03-13-2005, 09:35 PM

these are the same people who went south to get to the North Jersey meet....

MonmouthCtyAntz · 03-14-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Koll

we are ~10k.

Thats nothing for most living in rumson

Koll · 03-14-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Koll

we are ~10k.

Thats nothing for most living in rumson

This is true. And actually our properity is worth more than the house.

jims69camaro · 11-02-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddball

Here are some websites:

http://www.state.nj.us/convention/
http://www.citizens4propertytaxreform.org/
http://www.njcpg.org/index.html

We need the boiling-over rage of everyone to force Trenton to let this thing happen. Â*It may not solve the problem but it is better than doing nothing. Â*When you vote (at all levels), vote for someone who is making taxes a key issue and actually has a plan (as opposed to a douche who is all lip service).

Josh

very informative. and very true: if we do not have people's cooperation with this, then the status quo will continue and people will continue to be taxed at whatever rate the government chooses. this means you had better have a lot of equity in your home if you decide you want to continue to live there, because you are going to need a lot of extra money in order to be able to pay your taxes.

so what happens if people don't pay their taxes? they get evicted by the town or the county where they live (depends on who has jurisdiction over property tax evictions) and their home gets sold to the first person that can pay the tax bill. not a fair system, at all.

if you don't get pissed about this then i don't know what will piss you off. this is the government reaching deep into your pocket. i can't stand thieves.

Little G · 11-02-2005, 04:42 PM

DAMN POULTRY!!!

Tsar · 11-02-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skorpion317

these are the same people who went south to get to the North Jersey meet....

The Fixer · 11-02-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddball

It is opposed by groups that like the status quo (like the teachers union)

Well, it's not that we like the status quo, believe me. Unfortunately, we (the teachers) need the property taxes to fund our salaries. I'm a teacher in the lowest-paying district in Bergen County; it's also one of the lowest in the entire state. We're in the middle of contract negotiations now, fighting to get a raise. I'm in my 8th year, and my salary does not equal what some kids fresh out of college are getting hired at in their first year in other towns. Damn, this is more frustrating every day.

jims69camaro · 11-03-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Oddball

It is opposed by groups that like the status quo (like the teachers union)

Well, it's not that we like the status quo, believe me. Unfortunately, we (the teachers) need the property taxes to fund our salaries.

i'm raising the BS flag. other states don't need property taxes to fund public education, why should NJ? just because they haven't ever tried anything else doesn't mean something else won't work. look at PA - they no longer fund schools with property taxes and there is no mass movement of the teachers in that state to find some other state to live in and work.

the people most unfairly affected by funding schools with property taxes are those with no children in the system. i am one of them. i am not saying that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, but the amount that i am kicking in and the education these kids are receiving is not commensurate.

having each school district be an entity unto itself is what has created inequality among teachers in this state. if you're lucky enough to have had a superintendent that had something on the ball at any point, then your school will provide a better education than most. why would people even think of moving to an area based on the public school's ability to provide a better education? within our state? that's ludicrous. ALL of our children should receive the same level of education regardless of where they live. it shouldn't be predicated on property taxes.

same thing for teachers. all should be paid according to their experience, not where they go to work.

The Fixer · 11-03-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

i'm raising the BS flag. Â*other states don't need property taxes to fund public education, why should NJ? Â*

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ALL of our children should receive the same level of education regardless of where they live. Â*it shouldn't be predicated on property taxes.

same thing for teachers. Â*all should be paid according to their experience, not where they go to work.

Jim, I wholeheartedly agree with you! Ridgewood (for example) starts their teachers at 40K per year, and their students have some of the best programs available anywhere. Other towns that have spent the money wisely along the way show for it. The towns that were either wasteful or didn't put enough into their education system are taking the hit now. I wish they did it like some other states, but this is what we have to work with.

It's frustrating for me because I'm not at 40K after teaching for 7 years in my district.

JPiZZiJP · 11-03-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by foff667

knock on wood but mines stayed within like $200 of when we moved in 6 years ago...but did anyone hear about nj possibly tolling 295 and such? lol ya gotta love this state.

and Rt 287 supposedly might be tolled as well...

btw... blast from the past on this thread lol

foff667 · 11-03-2005, 01:45 PM