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07-19-2007, 05:44 PM
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now, this would look good in your car!
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07-19-2007, 08:58 PM
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I would drop it in...If I only had money lol
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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07-19-2007, 08:59 PM
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I would do it if I didn't have so much money and pride invested in the V6
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07-19-2007, 09:18 PM
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I would do it if I didn't have so much money and pride invested in the V6
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hahahahahaha
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07-19-2007, 09:20 PM
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think they could come up with better pictures for a 2500.00 motor???
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07-19-2007, 09:24 PM
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hahahahahaha 
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well its become more of put up or disappear into a void and never speak again  O well I just want it to run at this point.
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think they could come up with better pictures for a 2500.00 motor???
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yea WTF is up with that?? I would be fairly worried that they have no shots out of the truck
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07-19-2007, 09:44 PM
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3.4 + 3.4 + 1.7 = 8.5
at least no one can say its 2.5 times your motor bubba
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-19-2007, 09:46 PM
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Honestly.... I wouldn't do it.
I looked into it (I'm doing a 496 for my '69 when the time comes) and the aftermarket support for the Vortec 8.1 just isn't there apparently. Not worth the hassle.
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07-19-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
3.4 + 3.4 + 1.7 = 8.5
at least no one can say its 2.5 times your motor bubba
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for being more than twice as big...340hp is kinda sad actually thats really sad
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07-19-2007, 10:25 PM
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its a truck motor, wtf do you expect from it oh thats right the 450ftlbs of tq
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-19-2007, 10:29 PM
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its a truck motor, wtf do you expect from it oh thats right the 450ftlbs of tq
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And 200,000 miles of use.
Towing.
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07-19-2007, 10:32 PM
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yea but slightly modified LS1s can do the same thing with MORE Hp
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07-20-2007, 04:55 AM
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slightly? your talkin head and cam cars for the amount of tq.
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-20-2007, 08:46 AM
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no...ls6 manifold, headers, basic bolt ons and a good tune.
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07-20-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Honestly.... I wouldn't do it.
I looked into it (I'm doing a 496 for my '69 when the time comes) and the aftermarket support for the Vortec 8.1 just isn't there apparently. Not worth the hassle.
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when did you do your research? you can get 502 rect. port heads with 325cc intake for 1200, complete shipped to your door. you can't get that for a 350. all said and done, 650 lbs ft and 620 hp for $6500. that also can't be done with a 350. if i was ready, that motor would be mine. i only hope i can find one when i am ready.
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07-20-2007, 12:07 PM
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when did you do your research? you can get 502 d-port heads with 320cfm intake for 1200, complete shipped to your door. you can't get that for a 350. all said and done, 650 lbs ft and 620 hp for $6500. that also can't be done with a 350. if i was ready, that motor would be mine. i only hope i can find one when i am ready.
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Last year. There were five of them up for sale on ebay for $2500 each (in crates). What I was told is that a significant amount of Mark IV and Mark V stuff is not compatible (rotating assemblies, camshafts, etc) so even though there are some parts you can use it will be tough to put together a good combination.
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07-20-2007, 12:32 PM
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looks shady
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07-20-2007, 09:42 PM
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no...ls6 manifold, headers, basic bolt ons and a good tune.
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hahahaha i have a FULL bolt on car and am no where near 450 ftlbs
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-21-2007, 12:20 AM
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dont mind bubba, he really only knows about v6's, after that its guesstimation time lol.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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07-21-2007, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Last year. There were five of them up for sale on ebay for $2500 each (in crates). What I was told is that a significant amount of Mark IV and Mark V stuff is not compatible (rotating assemblies, camshafts, etc) so even though there are some parts you can use it will be tough to put together a good combination.
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look around again. if you can get good heads already worked to 325cc intake for 1200, and the whole kit and kaboodle for $6500, including the long block, i'd say start looking under the seat cushions for spare change. it can be done, just written about in one of the rags (chevy hi perf. july 2007). the cover says "small block versus big block, $6500 pump gas shootout, 422CI versus 505CI". they got to the 505.3 inches by boring .100 over a 454 and adding .25" stroke. Aerohead Racing supplied the heads for $1115, with 325cc intake ports (sorry, i knew it was somewhere around that).
parts list:
isky solid flat tappet cam, with 1.75:1 rockers lift is 0.638/0.654 with 259/268 degrees duration with lsa 106 degrees
ARP accessory bolt kit, balancer bolt and head bolts
Aerohead Racing new GM 14097088 cast iron heads 118cc combustion chamber, 325cc rectangular intake ports, stainless, swirl-polished valves 2.19/1.88, hardened seats, 3 angle valve job, 7/16th-inch studs with Manley guideplats and upgraded springs
Edelbrock 2902 Victor Jr 454-R intake
Fel-Pro gaskets
Isky lifters and pushrods
labor
total: $6360
now, this was just on the dyno, not in a real car, but they said they paid attention to the fact that they'd like to put it in a car, so it's not a dyno queen (like the small block in the same article). it maxed out at 594 lb ft and 622 hp with a compression ratio of 10.5:1 on 91 octane regular unleaded.
pretty sweet.
as far as incompatibility between the two motors, it's in the heads and it's a water jacket that needs to be shrouded by the deck and a specially made gasket.
no longer just the stuff of dreams. all it takes is a little patience for the aftermarket to pick up on the potential...
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07-21-2007, 04:26 PM
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The only thing impressive about that motor is the cubic inches. A LS1 or LS2 would be the way to go for almost anyone or in my situation 427 LS7
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07-21-2007, 04:29 PM
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Hah, same motor thats in the avalanche in my driveway, that truck hauls ***, and sucks up the gas.....
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07-22-2007, 06:06 PM
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I would drop it in...If I only had money lol
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I sure hope you'd be planning on aluminum heads/intake to go along with it, along with new front springs. That's an iron big block - VERY heavy piece, very bad mod for auto-x.
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07-22-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
I sure hope you'd be planning on aluminum heads/intake to go along with it, along with new front springs. That's an iron big block - VERY heavy piece, very bad mod for auto-x.
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Oh my word yes. in the end the wya I see it, might as well buy an LSX block, or go with the LS7 idea, cause in the end your gonna be blowing more money into this then Ron does with rears.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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07-25-2007, 08:08 AM
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hahahaha i have a FULL bolt on car and am no where near 450 ftlbs
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is brandon even makin 450 ftlbs? lol
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