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09-15-2008, 06:52 PM
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f-body.com - crazy nazi admin?
I really have to vent here... I signed up on f-body.com a few days ago after reading through some of the posts. I couldn't figure out why a website with a great domain name would be so dead... I soon found out why. A guy on there has a 4th gen LT1 6speed camaro that has run 13.1 @ 109 with a 2.1 60' on street tires (hes probably on here too?). He asks what he can do to make his car hook. The admin over there "Joe 1320" immediately started telling the guy how a 4th gen's rear suspension geometry is incorrect, not all that great for drag racing and if he wanted to hook good he needs a 4-link. He then went on to recommend about $900 in suspension work to make the car hook... yet totally neglects to mention sticky tires.
Here is where I chime in... As most of you know I have a '88 IROC with bone stock suspension front and rear. It's been 1.56 60fts with nothing more than 27x10.5" quick time pros. I make a post stating that rather than spend $800+ on suspension work he should start off with a set of slicks and see what the car does. I also mention how my fast my car has 60ft'd with no suspension modifications. The admin immediately replies wanting proof so I first post the picture in my sig of the car pulling the front tire... He replies with something along the lines of "3rd gens have similar rear suspension than 4th gens but not the same and wont hook as good!" I then go on to tell him that their rear suspension is exactly the same and that once again, before the guy spends $800+ of his hard earned cash on suspension he should get a set of slicks and see what happens... Now Mr. Admin tells me that basically I'm BS'ing him and demands pictures of my rear suspension - of course I deliver. What does he do? He deletes my posts and his replies to them!!! I just sent him a PM. Here it goes....
me: are you serious? I sign up here looking to help a fellow f-body guy out with his problems and you delete my posts? That's just ridiculous. If you don't agree with me than that is your opinion and I respect it but at least let me voice mine. Isnt that what technical discussion is all about? Everything I've said is fact and I can back up all my claims (as you've seen...) hell I'll write your username on a peice of paper and take pictures of my car's suspension if you want. I also have videos of it...
Joe 1320: First off, don't take an accusatory tone with me. The moderators can delete anything we wish and that's the end of discussion. Continue it and it's over quickly.
Now....... Feel free to repost what you feel necessary as I trash canned everything that was non relevant to his situation to preserve the thread's integrity. I don't know what you are used to dealing with but there are no games on here, no egos, and it's clean. It's going to stay that way.
me: I'm really not... like I said, I offered extremely relevant information to the thread and backed up all my claims... I have no reason to lie. The guy who started the thread even lives in my area, I'll be more than happy to meet him at the track and show him as well. It seems more or less that you have the ego and don't like to be challenged. As I said, nothing but respect for your opinion but at least let me offer mine and back it up with facts about my car (which has extremely similar suspension therefore would react extremely similar when it comes to modifications).
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We'll see what he replies with.... Let me stress that when I replied to this thread I did not argue with anyone, talk down on anyone, or anything. I just said my opinion and what my car has done... It really pisses me off that an admin treats their users like this. Don't they realize that without users their website / forum is completely useless? Anyway, just had to vent and wonder if anyone has had a similar experience? Here is the original thread: http://f-body.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21758&page=1
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09-15-2008, 07:11 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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what a piece of crap. i might have to go on there are turn his screws  an idiot too
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09-15-2008, 07:17 PM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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After reading that, I don't ever wanna hear another member here complain about our staff's "Nazi moderating tactics".
That's just complete crap.
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09-15-2008, 07:18 PM
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I <3 sheep
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Im going to have fun with this.
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Steve has a thing for sheep....
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09-15-2008, 07:25 PM
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He just replied...
Joe 1320Dude.... I'm going to put it in terms you can understand. I don't give a chit about whether your car is factual or not..... that is not the topic of discussion. Our banter in that thread was of no purpose and not worthy of staying in the thread. It's not about you and you are missing the point. Post again if you wish, I already made that clear.
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So basically, me giving the guy a recommendation on what he should do with his car is not within the topic of that particular thread. I swear if I listened to all the crap I've read on the internet and in magazines I'd have a 13 second car.  I'm not even going to reply or post on there anymore, it's absolutely insane to react that way and I'm just feeding into it.
I really wish I had saved all my posts to show how extremely non-threatening I came off and how I was really just trying to steer the guy in what I felt was the right direction.
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09-15-2008, 07:27 PM
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I <3 sheep
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too bad he isnt allowing new signups. I'd have a lot of fun overt there.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Steve has a thing for sheep....
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09-15-2008, 07:30 PM
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This guy needs a double-backside-somersault teabag to the dome, pronto.
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09-15-2008, 07:33 PM
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Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
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i would post up there. tell him a 4 link is for vettes and to get some rubber and 4.11's. then after he breaks the rear get a 12 bolt
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09-15-2008, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arm pit of the world... NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
I don't ever wanna hear another member here complain about our staff's "Nazi moderating tactics".
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You don't believe that is going to happen, do you?
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09-15-2008, 07:56 PM
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Queen of Destruction / NJFBOA Supporting Sponsor / Moderator / 12 Second Club / 2006 Member of the Year / PITA
Join Date: Aug 2004
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has anyone been able to sign up?
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09-15-2008, 08:02 PM
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11 Second Club
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They have to approve all registrations... Took them nearly 2 days to approve mine.
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09-15-2008, 10:07 PM
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11 Second Club
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tell him to go eat your ass.
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09-15-2008, 10:59 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Lol I cant even sign up with a yahoo email address....
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09-15-2008, 11:00 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Berlin, NJ
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just forget it and don't go back to that site. If you want to help out the dude contact him privately is what I would do.
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09-16-2008, 01:14 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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My thoughts exactly lol, this seems like such a chitty situation that guys a piece of work for sure.
EDIT* I just read the thread-that as*hat of a mod made the very next post after the guys question about how he needs slicks. WOW!!!!
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Last edited by Jersyboyy; 09-16-2008 at 01:15 AM.
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09-16-2008, 06:47 AM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
Join Date: Jul 2004
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That board was really strong for a while and then lost support because of the owner and some of the people he had helping him. To be honest, this is the first time I have even heard anyone mention it in a few years. I thought it was gone.
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09-16-2008, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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Yeah it's definitely worth going with a 4-link suspension on a street driven 12 second car  What a tool.
He needs to go with an air bag in the suspension too? WTF?
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I think someone has been reading too much Wikipedia or something.
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09-16-2008, 07:16 AM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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I used to post over there quite a bit but gave up completely.
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09-16-2008, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Columbia
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I'll delete reality and substitute my own ideas. Bawa-ha-haha.
It's all part of my evil plot to take over the internet one thread at a time. 
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09-18-2008, 09:28 PM
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10 Second Club
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hatfield, PA
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its like half of the duche bags on any of those boards, they are all keyboard commandos. just brush it off and delete it from your favorites, why deal with the ********?
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09-19-2008, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gibbstown, NJ
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wow... what a toolbox. Show him this thread so he feels like a total moron...but than again people like him think everything is peaches in their own little world.
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Last edited by chemicalstylez; 09-19-2008 at 08:43 AM.
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09-19-2008, 09:01 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
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wow... what a toolbox. Show him this thread so he feels like a total moron...
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Actually, If you show him this thread then he'll join up, talk a ton of crap, and then we have to be the Nazis. 
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09-19-2008, 09:16 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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Actually, If you show him this thread then he'll join up, talk a ton of crap, and then we have to be the Nazis. |
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT.
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2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
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09-19-2008, 09:27 AM
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10 Second Club
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LOL oh wow. That guys is completely wrong.....wait I think I have a log in over there teehee 
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09-19-2008, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Post iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt!
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