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Old 11-16-2008, 02:00 PM   #1
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Anyone wire ethernet jacks?

So, the new house came wired for internet in all the rooms, but the guy who did it did not put connectors on the ends that would attach in to the router. For some reason, I'm having trouble getting the cables connected myself, and I give up (I've done it before, I don't know if it's because of the wire that's there and the connector I'm using isn't the right one for the wire, or what).

Anyone think they can do it? Or know a company or someone that I can contact to come in and do it for us?

I can go out and get a cheap wireless card for my desktop for the time being, but it'd be nice to eventually not need that.

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Old 11-16-2008, 03:33 PM   #2
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I got this eithernetweb wiring stuff down yo. I can even bring my own supplies

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Old 11-16-2008, 03:36 PM   #3
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When you say it's wired in all the rooms, do you mean it's got jacks in every room, or wires hanging out of the ceiling? I've wired a few houses before, not sure when I could get up there, but I could prolly talk you through it if you tell / show me what you have there now.

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Old 11-16-2008, 03:45 PM   #4
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the connectors are 8 pin cat5e connectors right? you need a punchdown tool to properly install the wires. you can get one at lowes/homedepot or probably radio shack, and after that is pretty much just practice and getting the colors in the right order.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:30 PM   #5
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the connectors are pretty easy if you have the crimper and you're decent at stripping wires. I've done trillions of them.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:43 PM   #6
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No punchdown tool needed for putting jack ends on the CAT wire.

You just need to ensure you're putting the wires in the correct order when you push them into the jack.

http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/ethernetcables.html

That'll help you out. You just need some RJ-45 jack ends and a crimp tool (or some pliers if you're handy). Just strip them , flatten them into the correct wire order, cuts the ends FLAT, slide them into the jack, and crimp the blades in and then the wire lock on the other end. It helps if you have a cable tester. Mine has been ripped off, but they go for about $60-$90 bucks, depending on the type. Helps if your cables are run from one room to another so that you don't have crossed wired (they tell you something is messed up).

Good luck. I redid my house for phone AND cable, but I shouda ran "teh interwebz" cable the same time (phone line is CAT5E in my place, its overkill in case we ever went with DISH network).
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:56 PM   #7
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Justin, all the rooms have jacks wired for phone, internet, and cable. There are cat5 wires hanging in a central location in the house with no jacks. I have connectors, the stipper, and the crimper. It might just be that the wires are rounded and the connectors are meant for flat wires, and I can't get the wires in far enough. I dunno. I made a bunch of wire before though (hence already having the materials), but for some reason Ican't get it to work.

I gave up and bought a wireless card for now. But eventually I'd like to get them all wired, or at least the main rooms (our bedroom, guest room, office, and the kitchen for now) so I don't have to set every person up who wants to use the network with getting their MAC address, giving them the passkey/WEP key etc.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:03 PM   #8
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So you are trying to get RJ45 connectors on existing CAT5 cable, and just can't get the wires in the connector correctly? To make things easier I usually strip back 3/4"-1" of the casing, then flatten the twisted pair out in the order they need to go into the connector. Once that's done, I cut them with the crimper (flat surface), then carefully run them into the connector and crimp.

If you are getting that done and they still aren't working, then I would check the source of the previous owners wiring, as he may have used and incorrect pattern of twisted pair when he set it up.

WEP?!?!? are you crazy missy? You better have WPA setup on that router...

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So you are trying to get RJ45 connectors on existing CAT5 cable, and just can't get the wires in the connector correctly? To make things easier I usually strip back 3/4"-1" of the casing, then flatten the twisted pair out in the order they need to go into the connector. Once that's done, I cut them with the crimper (flat surface), then carefully run them into the connector and crimp.

If you are getting that done and they still aren't working, then I would check the source of the previous owners wiring, as he may have used and incorrect pattern of twisted pair when he set it up.

WEP?!?!? are you crazy missy? You better have WPA setup on that router...

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Yes, trying to put connectors on existing cable, and can't get the wires in correctly. And I did everything you said. I don't think the cables are getting in the connector all the way, and I think that's the problem. I've already tried 4 or 5 different times, having to cut more and more wire as I screw it up, and I don't want to cut it anymore as I"ll start losing the length so that it'll reach the router.

And yeah, I still use WEP. I have the ability to do WPA, but haven't done it yet...soo many devices I'd need to change over. I'm lazy.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:33 PM   #10
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Slacker....I can crack a WEP encrypted connection pretty quickly. I had a lot of free internet in the new house before I had Verizon come and install FiOS

I use a fairly complex WPA key and don't bother with the MAC filter. I've never had problems with anyone getting in, and I don't have to bother setting up the router if a friend comes over with their laptop.

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Slacker....I can crack a WEP encrypted connection pretty quickly. I had a lot of free internet in the new house before I had Verizon come and install FiOS

I use a fairly complex WPA key and don't bother with the MAC filter. I've never had problems with anyone getting in, and I don't have to bother setting up the router if a friend comes over with their laptop.

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I'd expect you to be able to. But have you seen the area where Matt lives (and now we do)? Yeah, I'd venture most of them barely know how to turn the computer on, let alone crack a WEP router. Not really worried about it here.

I'll eventually get to changing it over. I just don't want to deal with the hassle at the moment. More important things to do, like unpack. lol
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:40 PM   #12
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Yeah we're using WPA2 here, it takes a few minutes to change over all of the pc's but I'd rather be safe than sorry. We've got 2 wired & 3 wireless laptops here so it was a bit of work but well worth it IMO for peace of mind.
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #13
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Part of my job description requires me to do this. Here's what I do,

I strip the outside shielding from about and 1 1/2 inch from the end. Untwist the pairs and straighten them out with a screw driver. Line them up in the specific color code. I ussually use EIA/TIA-568B standard (Doesn't really mater as long as you're have the same on both sides. Insert with the tab facing away from you. and Crimp.

It could be that just those cables went bad. What do you do to test it?
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Part of my job description requires me to do this. Here's what I do,

I strip the outside shielding from about and 1 1/2 inch from the end. Untwist the pairs and straighten them out with a screw driver. Line them up in the specific color code. I ussually use EIA/TIA-568B standard (Doesn't really mater as long as you're have the same on both sides. Insert with the tab facing away from you. and Crimp.

It could be that just those cables went bad. What do you do to test it?
Plugging my laptop in and trying to connect to the internet is my test. And since I have no idea which wire is for which room, I have to test them all.

And that's what I did. Oh well.
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I use a RADIUS server for enterprise WPA2 authentication using EAP-PEAP tunneling protocol... yes I am a nerd, no I have nothing better to do. I am the only user.
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