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01-01-2010, 09:57 AM
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TCS question
a few weeks ago i was dicking around w my friends and layed down some rubber, and a cop saw me didnt pull me over or anything but i guess he knew me, so he rang my doorbell and told my parents. so my dad locked my traction control on. any ideas on what he might have done? when i press the button and the light just stays lit. i tried taking the fuse out in hopes of resetting it but no luck.
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1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock  SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
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01-01-2010, 10:26 AM
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Um what? Didnt know that was possible? Pull the fuse and leave it out, just make shure it dosent mess up your abs and cause braking problems when you take the fuse out.
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01-01-2010, 10:29 AM
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yea its possible.... i took the fuse out and turned the car on and it gave me a ruduced power light and idled really rough
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-01-2010, 10:32 AM
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Ok so no dice on that um did he un-plug the switch? Do you have ur owners manual?
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01-01-2010, 10:49 AM
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no its not unplugged i dont think. the light in the switch still lights up. yes i have the owners manuel
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-01-2010, 10:59 AM
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check the owners manual maybe its in there. I didnt know that was possible.
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01-01-2010, 11:42 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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See if he did anything behind the switch, like cut a wire.
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01-01-2010, 03:04 PM
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Not 100% on LS1s, but can you yank the ASR/TCS relay?
It kills the ASR on LT1 cars I believe. If that works, than you just need to check the owners manual for like a lock sequence that may have been done.
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01-01-2010, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Not 100% on LS1s, but can you yank the ASR/TCS relay?
It kills the ASR on LT1 cars I believe. If that works, than you just need to check the owners manual for like a lock sequence that may have been done.
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its a 3800 series 3.8l v6. how would i go abt finding that out
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-01-2010, 04:43 PM
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just pop off the bezzel if it is the same one above the radio. Otherwise you migh thave to get a wiring diagram.
did you see him when he did this ? if he went in the car then you know that is the case. Wonder if he shorted it to power or bypassed the switch, but stil has it so it stays lit.
pop off the bezzel and take a picture if it looks abnormal
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01-01-2010, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyFirstZ
just pop off the bezzel if it is the same one above the radio. Otherwise you migh thave to get a wiring diagram.
did you see him when he did this ? if he went in the car then you know that is the case. Wonder if he shorted it to power or bypassed the switch, but stil has it so it stays lit.
pop off the bezzel and take a picture if it looks abnormal
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yea he was under the hood but also had the driver sid door open, ill pop off the fuse and take a pic of the dash tommorrw, hes home right now. im thinking he might have done with switch thing, how do you take the dash off. just pry it off with a screw driver?
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-01-2010, 07:14 PM
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Don't use a screwdriver on ur dash you'll eff it up. Just carefully pry it off with your fingers it really isn't hard to take off.
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01-01-2010, 07:19 PM
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if you are talknig about this then yes, hes right it is not that hard, but be very careful you dont have much play between the fog and asr switch wires when this comes off so dont tug to hard
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01-01-2010, 07:23 PM
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not sure if he did anything under the hood but i will look at a wiring diagram and see what else he can do, what it is wired into
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01-01-2010, 11:05 PM
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Anyone with late model tuning software know if there is anything in the PCM that could be used to lock the traction control on? On other sites I have seen parents use software like HP Tuners to limit top speed and otherwise tune the computer in an attempt to keep their kids from getting into trouble.
- Justin
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01-02-2010, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Anyone with late model tuning software know if there is anything in the PCM that could be used to lock the traction control on? On other sites I have seen parents use software like HP Tuners to limit top speed and otherwise tune the computer in an attempt to keep their kids from getting into trouble.
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There is a computer avalible for parents that tracks your speed, where you go, ect. Idk if it can lock the tcs on tho
http://www.trackteendriver.com/
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01-02-2010, 10:11 AM
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Who owns the car and pays the insurance? If it's dad, stop screwing around. If you own the car and pay the insurance, tell the old man to keep his mitts off. lol
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01-02-2010, 11:00 AM
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i popped the dash off and nothing doing, idk seems like im sol
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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01-02-2010, 03:59 PM
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I have heard of things like that, but assume that they are too generalized to be able to much, if any, modification to the PCM.
- Justin
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01-02-2010, 06:32 PM
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He had to have disabled the ASR button. When you start the car, the ASR is always in the ready state. So if you disable the ASR off button, then you won't be able to turn it off unless you pull a fuse or disconnect the EBCM connector.
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Last edited by BarneyMobile; 01-02-2010 at 06:33 PM.
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01-02-2010, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyMobile
He had to have disabled the ASR button. When you start the car, the ASR is always in the ready state. So if you disable the ASR off button, then you won't be able to turn it off unless you pull a fuse or disconnect the EBCM connector.
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the light on the button still lgihts up as if it were still connected, so odk
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2002 Camaro Sunset Orange Mettalic, V6, 5spd, bilstein HD shocks and struts, eibach pro lowering kit, eibach f/r sway bars, lakewood PHB, UMI 2 point subframe connectors, energy suspensions poly master bushing kit
daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
03 Blazer 2 door - salt sponge
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