Rumsfeld is stepping down....

[Tru2Chevy]

Just announced a few minutes ago, Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down as Defense Secretary. Robert Gates, former head of the CIA is set to replace him.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/....ap/index.html

- Justin

[Tsar]

and his reason for stepping down is?


i dont feel like reding

[Tru2Chevy]

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld stepped down Wednesday, one day after congressional elections in which opposition to the war in Iraq contributed to heavy Republican Party losses.

President George W. Bush said he would nominate Robert Gates, a former CIA director, to replace Rumsfeld at the Pentagon.

- Justin

[shane27]

donald was decent, idk enough about him to say much tho.
just what was needed after a crappy election i guess
no matter tho i bet manendez will get indited in a few months

[Savage_Messiah]

shane download firefox 2 and for the love of god use spellcheck

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

shane download firefox 2 and for the love of god use spellcheck

i think shane's a lot better than others right now

[shane27]

irefox andi have f

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

shane download firefox 2 and for the love of god use spellcheck

i have firefox 2.0
and i dont care enough about my spelling on the internet to care

[GP99GT]

i correct his spelling constantly, it never seems to get through to him though

[LuvMyF8LWS6]

Rumsfeld was hot when he was younger. I did a google image search of him!

[jims69camaro]

alrighty then.

the country is being ripped apart at the seams over the war. damn bush and his lack of exit-strategy. btw, i voted strictly democratic this year, considering most, if not all, of the incumbents were republican.

oh, and our sheriff here in ocean county is 77 years old, voted in for another 4 year term which will make him 81 at the end of his term. highly effective, donchathink? it's his subordinates doing all of the work and he gets all of the credit. *sigh*

[NJSPEEDER]

i like how bush is the only cause of the war to so many people. did he fly a plane into the towers? did he threaten the us with chemical weapons?
anyone who knows **** about how the government works should also be aware that the prsident does not decide troop movements or how to fight a war. he is informed of the goings on, but they have experts that develop actual battle field strategy.
i am so sick of the way people use the ****in headline spin on the evening news and the papers to decide how to vote. did anyone notice that 62% of the democrats in office when the war started voted for it? oh, i guess everyone missed that article cause it was all the way back on page 5.
blindly voting for one party is retarded. maybe try informing yourself about the cadidates instead of following the knee jerk reactions of the popular press.

[JL8Jeff]

Yeah, the attitude of voting democratic just to teach Bush a lesson is the most moronic thought process people could have. Yup, it's really going to show him. It's not like he's done after this term anyway, duh. But we do need a good balance to keep the whole system floundering so this should get interesting. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with any of the people running for office, what a lame excuse for the dems. I still wish we could get a really strong 3rd party established so it's not just 2 sided all the time. With 3 strong parties it wouldn't be as negative but more positive about what your candidate is going to do. I also hope that we change some laws regarding advertising and it's limited to the people running and not "sponsored by the northwest European gem growers association"!

[NJSPEEDER]

i woudl rather see politacl parties vanish all together than to have a third party. look at the troubl ethe brits are in with all their different parties. they now have the highest tax rate of any developed nation.
the truth about politics is that many of the people seeking office are just on a power quest, the press spins everything so they can sell another issue or a reporter can grab another by-line off the wires, and the only people who can afford to make policy are the ones who can afford to avoid suffering from it anyway.
at least on our local level we had a true independant run. he only got about 650 of the under 10k votes cast(yes kids, only about 40% of our township made it to the polls), but it was still nice to see.

[Teds89IROC]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

i like how bush is the only cause of the war to so many people. did he fly a plane into the towers? did he threaten the us with chemical weapons?
anyone who knows **** about how the government works should also be aware that the prsident does not decide troop movements or how to fight a war. he is informed of the goings on, but they have experts that develop actual battle field strategy.
i am so sick of the way people use the ****in headline spin on the evening news and the papers to decide how to vote. did anyone notice that 62% of the democrats in office when the war started voted for it? oh, i guess everyone missed that article cause it was all the way back on page 5.
blindly voting for one party is retarded. maybe try informing yourself about the cadidates instead of following the knee jerk reactions of the popular press.

so true

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

i like how bush is the only cause of the war to so many people. did he fly a plane into the towers? did he threaten the us with chemical weapons?

haha someone told u you had a giant boner for bush Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 that was afganistan, and if remember correctly no one bitched when u decided to go all high and almighty on their asses. chemical weapons? mustard gas? okk chief. i can name a handful of other countries who got some real **** and you'll never invade them no matter what they do



and now ill just sit back and

[NJSPEEDER]

we went through this before dude. it is all about getting rid of terrorist organizations. not borders or what **** head puppet leader of what **** wad country they are hiding in. these people don't jsut stand around waiting for their ass kicking to come, they run and hide.
apparently that is too big a concept for you to get your head around.
i would also like to say that i am not much of a gw fan. i think his international policy leaves a lot to be desired and he certainly could be getting more done to help the middle class.
what he has going for him is that he is not afraid to make decisions. while a lot of presidents, george the first and willy clinton for example, were hardly ever caught making a decision they couldn't weasel out of or entirely hide from. if they did claim a decisio as their own you could count on it being something that the whole world coudl agree on the answer

[johnjzjz]

THE PROBLEM IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOME THINK -- 2 YEARS FROM NOW FU%&$ HILLARY CLINTON WILL BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH TODAYS MINE SET -- MY GRAND KIDS AND ( YOUR kids ) ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THESE ISSUES AND FOR THE BUNCH THAT THINKS ITS AFGANNA / IRAK OR ANYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 100 YEARS IS MISTAKEN -- the crusades were fought in the 12th century over the same issue Muslims hate Christians and anyone else that itsent Muslim -- they are going to strike us again - as soon as the liberals start impeachment of bush because he talks funny or any reason - be afraid very afraid - jz

[BigAls87Z28]

Obviously that voting the Dems in did do something. If the Reps remained in control, they would be able to continue to keep Rumsfeld in his seat.
Rumsfeld is a jackass, and has done nothing but cause a Vietnam 2.0 over there. Lack of body armor and continious blowing of smoke up the asses of America about how bad it is, when the Generals are saying other wise.
Bush is a lame duck, he cant go on, but he took out Rumsfeld because he had to appease both the Dems AND the Reps that crossed over. Bush did this so that he could hope to gain back some Republicans that voted Dem.
Bush is clueless, and now we have the former CIA director, probably the same guy that let that memo about Islamic Fundementalists taking flying lessons in Florida, slip through his ****ing hands. This mid term election was about the peopel being fed up with the same nonsense for the past 6 years. Still suffering at home, and more and more troops are dying in the middle of a civil war. Bush IS the #1 Military man in the land. There is no one higher. He is the "6 star" General. Commander in Chief, leader of the US Armed Forces, Gerorge W Bush.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

-- they are going to strike us again - as soon as the liberals start impeachment of bush because he talks funny or any reason - be afraid very afraid - jz

Any reason?
How about...oh, i dont know..


INVADING A ****ING SOVERIGN NATION, UNPROVOKED AGAINGS THE WILL OF THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD?? RING A BELL??
Saddam did that in 1990
Hitler did that in 1938 to 1941
Bill Clinton got a blow job and lied about it, and he brought up on charges. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!
Any reason? Give me a ****ing break. Im surprised they havent marched his ass down to the Hague.

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by GW

"There were different factors that determined the outcome of different races, but no question, Iraq was on people's minds," Bush said. "And, as you have just learned, I am making a change at the secretary of defense to bring a fresh perspective as to how to achieve something I think most Americans want, which is a victory."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/...ush/index.html

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

we went through this before dude. it is all about getting rid of terrorist organizations. not borders or what **** head puppet leader of what **** wad country they are hiding in. these people don't jsut stand around waiting for their ass kicking to come, they run and hide.
apparently that is too big a concept for you to get your head around.
i would also like to say that i am not much of a gw fan. i think his international policy leaves a lot to be desired and he certainly could be getting more done to help the middle class.
what he has going for him is that he is not afraid to make decisions. while a lot of presidents, george the first and willy clinton for example, were hardly ever caught making a decision they couldn't weasel out of or entirely hide from. if they did claim a decisio as their own you could count on it being something that the whole world coudl agree on the answer

terrorist organization my ass. you would be in Lebanon, Africa, Philippines, Russia, North Korea (whole state is BLACKMAILING you, and you just give it everything it wants.) and majority of South America too. Instead you're platying a "police" force and perhaps accomplishing some long term goals and settling some old score... i dont know what terrorism is, alright bud. I would say that ive seen **** blow up with my own eyes, or ive was in Moscow with my mother when terrorist attack in Russia happened in 1999 (august/september) but then again you'll have no clue what im talking about without actually looking **** up. kthxbye thanks for trying.

[NJSPEEDER]

you are still failing to see the point here. this has nothing to do with you,your mom,or that sad sack former super power you are from.
terrorism is a world wide problem, this is something we all know already.
america is the worl's police. it is one of the ****** side jobs of being the last standing super power in the world. the US currently has troops deployed every place you just mentioned, some fighting terrorists, some working as occupying forces, some doing **** the government doesn't let us know about. that is the way it works.
our military takes the fight to their back yard to keep them from getting to ours. the people who hate america jsut because it is america enough to want to attack us are the people the military is after. it has nothing to do with what country they are standing in or where they are from, it is about getting to the people who want to attack us and those who make it possible for them to try.
**** them terrorists! USA FTMFW!!!!

[Knipps]

oh *****

[jims69camaro]

just in case i wasn't just called a retard and a moron, i apologize.

i never said i voted dem down the line because of what bush was/is/will be doing. i voted dem down the line because all of the repubs affected by this race have become complacent. i voted dem because most, if not all, incumbents, who have done **** for us lately because they thought as long as they were incumbent they could just continue to hold office until the cows came home, were republican. maybe i should have spoon fed it to you, and you talk about people not getting it? true, sometimes i am cryptic and vague in my statements, but i don't think the latitude you took has anything to do with me. you've spoken with me in person; do i really sound like one of the baying sheep that follows the headlines with anything more than a passing fancy?

i should never have included the following statement in this thread, because it only confused you: "this country is being ripped apart at the seams over this war. damn bush and his lack of exit-strategy." what this means, for those of you in the back row, is that i think it's deplorable to vote one way or the other without doing your homework just because someone is in the same party of a person holding office (in this case, president). it's hard, i guess, to see the sarcasm dripping from statements on the internet, and i rarely spend enough time online to draw things out beyond a one or two line response.

i'm surprised that i got railed at all. hey, at least i executed my right to vote. that already makes me better than 65% of the people in this state, no matter what excuse they use for staying home.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

you are still failing to see the point here. this has nothing to do with you,your mom,or that sad sack former super power you are from.
terrorism is a world wide problem, this is something we all know already.
america is the worl's police. it is one of the ****** side jobs of being the last standing super power in the world. the US currently has troops deployed every place you just mentioned, some fighting terrorists, some working as occupying forces, some doing **** the government doesn't let us know about. that is the way it works.
our military takes the fight to their back yard to keep them from getting to ours. the people who hate america jsut because it is america enough to want to attack us are the people the military is after. it has nothing to do with what country they are standing in or where they are from, it is about getting to the people who want to attack us and those who make it possible for them to try.
**** them terrorists! USA FTMFW!!!!

yea, so when are you taking out terrorists in saudi arabia? who pretty much openly sponsor terrorism and supply your oil? oh thats right you're not. You pick you battles just like you picked Iraq with their mustard gas. And if you do remember correctly the whole thing with Iraq got started BECAUSE BUSH SAID THAT IRAQ WAS A THREAT AND HAD WMDS.... and don't even try to flip this in any other way. it had nothing to do with terrorism at first, then somehow he jumped terrorist bangwagon after Blair said that documents about WMDs that were presented were made up. (ohhh noooes, how convenient)


and no there're no American troops stationed in Lebanon, North Korea or Russia. And last time i heard Americans didn't want nothing to do with africa, **** you even said it yourself in the last thread we had this discussion that you got nothing in Africa and they should do their own ****. The only thing you got in Africa is military exercises once in awhile. Maybe you wanna get your facts straight and stop GW nutswinging.


but hey nice try to avoid answering my questions, and just restate the same thing all over again. cookie, top shelf, go now.

P.S. sad sack of **** former super power of mine can still make any country in the world into a radioactive golf course for the next 10000 years, which is more then 99% of the world can do.