****ING RECRUITERS!! - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

Teds89IROC · 02-24-2009, 04:29 PM

There are recruiting agencies that specialize in Accounting & Finance who companies hire to find them employees, basically a middleman. I've had zero luck with them! They post fake ads so people respond with their resumes attached and these people can build up their "inventory." They must also know that they suck because most don't even disclose their information in their ads on monster or any other job search engine; under company name it will sometimes say "company confidential" but the body will describe the location and the work the company does. I applied for an Accounting job in Parsippany with an actual CPA firm but got called by a ****ing recruiter who I had to meet in Jersey City for an interview (about an hour drive). I get there and the information he gave me (this company wants someone with experience, not a fresh graduate) was **** he could have told me on the ****ing phone! Got a call today from a recruiter not too far away about a position I applied for last week, he's not sure if the position is still available but not to worry because they get entry level requests all the time, bull****ing****...I've heard this before. Part of me wants to cancel the interview I have with him Thursday morning because I'm most likely just going to get the run around but part of me says I should just go because who knows, maybe something will come up through them. I'm just skeptical because the last recruiter I interviewed with who has my info told me they get stuff all the time and she would call me....this was almost a month ago and not a call.

/RANT

ar0ck · 02-24-2009, 04:32 PM

Sucks to hear Ted, just hang in there you'll find something soon I hope. The last resort is ask favors from people.

BonzoHansen · 02-24-2009, 04:36 PM

Always do an interview, at worst it is good practice. I won't give a recruiter my resume unless I know what the position & company is.

BonzoHansen · 02-24-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck

Sucks to hear Ted, just hang in there you'll find something soon I hope. The last resort is ask favors from people.

No, that is not 'the last resort' Networking is how you find many/most jobs.

LS1Hawk · 02-24-2009, 04:38 PM

Recruiters in general suck. They are only looking out for themselves. I never had any luck with them. The jobs I've gotten since college were from my own legwork. Just keep plugging away. I remember it took me 6 months after I graduated to land a job...it wasn't a good one but a lot of times you have to take those to start somewhere. Good luck, Ted.

ar0ck · 02-24-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

No, that is not 'the last resort' Networking is how you find many/most jobs.

Well Ted knows who I'm talking about, a particular female we both know/knew.

BonzoHansen · 02-24-2009, 04:49 PM

Oh, you mean a particular contact! LOL

Little G · 02-24-2009, 05:26 PM

You may want to know that a lot of these ads are place by companies who are looking to hire foreign nationals.

Basically, they post the ad and get as many applicants and then find ways that these applicants are not fit for the position. Then they have the right to open it up to hiring foreign nationals.

Just wanted to throw a little water in the grease fire for your enjoyment here.

g

firehawk1120 · 02-24-2009, 05:53 PM

hey ted, i use to work with a guy who was really pretty good. I don't know if i still have his business card or not but I can look. This was about 10 years ago so who knows if he's still doing it or not but I should have the company name on his card if nothing else.

If I remember correctly I met him somewhere and he came to me to meet just to get a feel for my personality and what it was I was looking for large company, small, audit vs. taxes or corporate accounting. I think I have a stack of business cards from my accounting days in my basement like i said if you want I can look for ya.

Not sure where you went to school but usually the career development center has postings of companies looking for employees not sure how long ago you graduated either. Maybe they will still help you find a job if you approach them as well.

Gene

Blackbirdws6 · 02-24-2009, 07:44 PM

I actually can't stand recruiters even though I had a decent experience with one recently. I got a call from a recruiter (Aerotek - Technical/Engineering Jobs) about 10 months ago about a job opportunity in NJ looking for someone with my experience. He would not disclose the company name but would only tell me the company is awesome blah blah.

It sounded like a good fit but he first wanted me to interview with him in NYC. I told him very simply, "I'm good at what I do and I'm not going to waste anyones time if you aren't wasting mine". I told him to submit my resume and see how they respond. Sure enough, the company wanted to meet with me and I got the job. The only risk I took was going from a salary job to a contract-to-hire position which worked out well in my case. I am now back on salary and making more than I did before.

1. They will almost never disclose the company because you could go around them and get the job...cutting them out of their money.

2. Don't be afraid to deal directly with the company once you find out who it is. I got lucky and interviewed with one of the company VP's so I was just about at the top and dealt directly with him to get me the job and work out the details.

3. Interviews with the recruiters are fine as long as they are warranted. I really don't see the point of an in person interview unless you like the practice or sound like a dunce on the phone. If you can talk, you should be fine.

The issue now is that a lot of companies may be going to these recruiters to find people only because there are more resumes floating around than ever since a lot of people are looking for work.

Good luck with everything and I hope some of my info helped. Don't waste your time with these people if you don't think its worth it.

Teds89IROC · 02-24-2009, 09:16 PM

thanks for the info guys and Gene I would really appreciate the help. I graduated from William Paterson in January and their career development help is weak. I've been in contact with professors who are trying to help me and other graduates land jobs as well but even that hasn't been too successful.

TaKid455 · 02-24-2009, 09:24 PM

In some professions, I here recruiters are good. However, I have found the engineering profession, they are garbage. They talk up a storm and leave you hanging. I have found all of my jobs doing my own leg work. Firms actually prefer you to go direct through them as it saves them a good bit of money. It also shows that you took an initiative to find a job and/or information about that company. Many times I figure out about the company the recruiter is talking about and ask who it is or simply state the company name. I had one recruiter interview 1.5 hrs away all to here I would have to relocated b/c there was nothing in my area. I was pissed although I kept my cool. I think I score a job the following week on my own in my area.

BonzoHansen · 02-24-2009, 09:25 PM

Another thing about recruiters is once you give them your info they have it. They will submit it other places w/o you knowing and it can keep you from getting a job. If you put in your resume to company A and they already got your resume from joe recruiter, if they hire you they have to pay that guy or they may get sued. Which can kill the opportunity.

Teds89IROC · 02-24-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Another thing about recruiters is once you give them your info they have it. They will submit it other places w/o you knowing and it can keep you from getting a job. If you put in your resume to company A and they already got your resume from joe recruiter, if they hire you they have to pay that guy or they may get sued. Which can kill the opportunity.

good point I never thought of that

redbanditZ28 · 02-24-2009, 11:40 PM

As you may already know, recruiting agency job postins rarely if ever give out the employer's name. It always helps to look up the name of the recruiting agency so that you know they are one in the first place. I almost worked for a recruiting agency since I was an HR recruiter, but I didn't have the heart to pull that crap on people like what happened to you in Jersey City. Plus, recruiters are no different than car salesmen or any other type of sales. Their products are the people they recruit. Like a software salesman sells a cheap version of an electronic device, a recruiter sells a below-average skilled worker to a company. They make money off of you and the many others that apply to positions that suck people in, and they don't really care about you if you have to drive an hour to get there and if they never call you back or find a job for you.

But like someone said, it never hurts to go to find out who the company is that the position is for, and try to contact the company's HR dept. and go over the head of the recruiter. But even then, not all recruiters will tell you who the company is because if they do, many people woul go over their heads, and the recruiter would lose out on a sale of selling a qualified job candidate to an employer which puts money in the recruiter's pocket.