Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar
Go Back   NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > General Tech

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-17-2009, 03:04 PM   #1
426 Wedge
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Forked River
Posts: 154
iTrader: (0)
SS Z28

Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the 2 models? Also am I correct in stating there is a SS Z28 model option??
__________________
86 TransAm WS6 LG4 4BBL Hanlon T5

00 SS M6
426 Wedge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 04:05 PM   #2
sweetbmxrider
Meet Coordinator
 
sweetbmxrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,368
iTrader: (12)
what gen?
__________________
sweetbmxrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 04:57 PM   #3
426 Wedge
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Forked River
Posts: 154
iTrader: (0)
4th gen.
__________________
86 TransAm WS6 LG4 4BBL Hanlon T5

00 SS M6
426 Wedge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 05:00 PM   #4
NJ Torque
11 Second Club
 
NJ Torque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 4,620
iTrader: (29)
Social Networks:

Quote:
Originally Posted by 426 Wedge View Post
4th gen.
There was no such thing as a "SS Z28"

My work calls an SS an "SS Z28" on R/O's...
__________________
1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.

2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.

2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
NJ Torque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 05:03 PM   #5
NJ346
11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
 
NJ346's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Troy, Mi
Posts: 2,642
iTrader: (9)
there's no major differences. The HP difference between the 2 models are so minimal, and who keeps their cars stock anyway?

Check this thread out for all the info you want to know about 98-02 f-bodies. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/new-ls...questions.html IMO, you can't go wrong with a 99-02, but stay away from 98's as they have some "first year flaws" of the newest 4th gen cars.
__________________
Vinnie -

00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13

Last edited by NJ346; 05-17-2009 at 05:04 PM.
NJ346 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 05:04 PM   #6
sweetbmxrider
Meet Coordinator
 
sweetbmxrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,368
iTrader: (12)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-...evrolet_Camaro
__________________
sweetbmxrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 05:04 PM   #7
NJ Torque
11 Second Club
 
NJ Torque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 4,620
iTrader: (29)
Social Networks:

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN View Post
there's no major differences. The HP difference between the 2 models are so minimal, and who keeps their cars stock anyway?

Check this thread out for all the info you want to know about 98-02 f-bodies.http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/new-ls...questions.html IMO, you can't go wrong with a 99-02, but stay away from 98's as they have some "first year flaws" of the newest 4th gen cars.
yeah, my 98 is junk.
__________________
1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.

2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.

2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
NJ Torque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 05:14 PM   #8
NastyEllEssWon
 
NastyEllEssWon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
Posts: 6,785
iTrader: (11)
basically hood, spoiler, badges, wheels and bigger sway bars. im not sure if theres a difference in the spring rate too. im pretty sure z28s have fe2 sport suspension while ss's and ws6 have fe3 springs



edit: oh yeah and a power steering cooler too

Last edited by NastyEllEssWon; 05-17-2009 at 05:15 PM.
NastyEllEssWon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 05:37 PM   #9
SuperSweet
 
SuperSweet's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Roselle Park, NJ
Posts: 173
iTrader: (0)
technically its a "z28 ss" according to registration
__________________

-Jay-
COD-MW2=X02ssMaroX XBOX LIVE
02 SOMSS-M6-,Volant CAI,TR55's,UMI LCA'S and PHR, Longtubes & TD's w/ sweet thunder bullets 315-35/17's. 349rwhp/372rwtq
SuperSweet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 06:44 PM   #10
Jensend
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 113
iTrader: (1)
Z-28s were available in a stripped out format (no options). No T-tops, crank windows, manual cloth seats, manual mirrors, no T/C. They have a "flat" hood (no scoop) and a smaller spoiler than the SS model.
__________________
Jensend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 06:59 PM   #11
NJ346
11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
 
NJ346's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Troy, Mi
Posts: 2,642
iTrader: (9)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Torque View Post
yeah, my 98 is junk.
I said IMO. Obviously your car moves out and would walk all over my 99. But when stock, I don't like the stock heads of a 98, smaller gas tank, and the pcm is a little different from the rest of the years. 98-99's do have the best TB and cam of the years.
__________________
Vinnie -

00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
NJ346 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 07:32 PM   #12
emolineaux
 
emolineaux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Aberdeen,nc/columbus,nj
Posts: 1,449
iTrader: (17)
i cant complain about my 98 besides the few small stupid things that have happened but thats because of age. but anyway my insurance card says "Z28 SS"
__________________
Eric
07 Silverado 1500 5.3
01 Z28 6 speed
emolineaux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 09:00 PM   #13
NJ Torque
11 Second Club
 
NJ Torque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 4,620
iTrader: (29)
Social Networks:

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN View Post
I said IMO. Obviously your car moves out and would walk all over my 99. But when stock, I don't like the stock heads of a 98, smaller gas tank, and the pcm is a little different from the rest of the years. 98-99's do have the best TB and cam of the years.
I think the gastank is the same size, mine is just steel.

My stock heads seemed to flow fine vs my buddies car who has an 00. The PCM/electronics are different...

Also, people say the 98's had weak rod bolts, my car sees 7k regularly with no issue.
__________________
1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.

2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.

2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
NJ Torque is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 09:09 PM   #14
BonzoHansen
Admin.
 
BonzoHansen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,165
iTrader: (27)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon View Post
basically hood, spoiler, badges, wheels and bigger sway bars. im not sure if theres a difference in the spring rate too. im pretty sure z28s have fe2 sport suspension while ss's and ws6 have fe3 springs



edit: oh yeah and a power steering cooler too
power steering cooler? Don't all the V8 LS cars get them?
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!

The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.

Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.

Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
BonzoHansen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2009, 09:19 PM   #15
NJ346
11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
 
NJ346's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Troy, Mi
Posts: 2,642
iTrader: (9)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
power steering cooler? Don't all the V8 LS cars get them?
nope, only the ss and ws6 got them...might have been an option on the z28 and t/a though.
__________________
Vinnie -

00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
NJ346 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 05:39 AM   #16
426 Wedge
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Forked River
Posts: 154
iTrader: (0)
Thanks for the links and info.
__________________
86 TransAm WS6 LG4 4BBL Hanlon T5

00 SS M6
426 Wedge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 08:23 AM   #17
V
Stalker
 
V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 12,082
iTrader: (12)
All SS's began life as Z28's, then left GM to be converted into "SS" models
V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 08:59 AM   #18
JL8Jeff
Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
 
JL8Jeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ewing
Posts: 6,216
iTrader: (3)
I believe the 96-97 cars may have been the only ones badged as a Z28 SS. 98 on up would be straight SS badging or regular Z28 badging. The SS option was in addition to the Z28.
__________________
69 Z28 JL8 4 wheel disc brakes - being restored
09 Silverado Z71
JL8Jeff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 09:03 AM   #19
BonzoHansen
Admin.
 
BonzoHansen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,165
iTrader: (27)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN View Post
nope, only the ss and ws6 got them...might have been an option on the z28 and t/a though.
the z28 I stripped had one, that is why I asked.
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!

The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.

Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.

Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
BonzoHansen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 01:28 PM   #20
98tadriver
10 Second Club; Has fan club
 
98tadriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Delmont nj
Posts: 4,369
iTrader: (17)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Torque View Post
yeah, my 98 is junk.
mine too. it blew up at 56kmiles. after a few slave cylinders, shes been good to me ever since. the rest of the damage was more my fault lol

98's do have bigger injectors though
__________________
01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA

2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold

1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day

Last edited by 98tadriver; 05-18-2009 at 01:29 PM.
98tadriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 03:53 PM   #21
NastyEllEssWon
 
NastyEllEssWon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
Posts: 6,785
iTrader: (11)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokingSS View Post
All SS's began life as Z28's, then left GM to be converted into "SS" models


the early ones yes. the later ones 00-02 were done in house by GM and not slp.


98s has 12 gallon gas tanks and no fuel return.

98/99 had a bigger cam than 01-02 (01-02 had a deleted egr, ls6 intake and smaller ls6 cam to pass emissions).

98's also had 28 lb injectors

all ls1's have weak rod bolts. ask dustin.

the powersteering cooler is mostly on ss's and ws6's. rare on a low level.
NastyEllEssWon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 06:24 PM   #22
JL8Jeff
Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
 
JL8Jeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ewing
Posts: 6,216
iTrader: (3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon View Post
the early ones yes. the later ones 00-02 were done in house by GM and not slp.
My 2000 SS has SLP stickers all over it and even one of the RPO's calls out for the "hood for transit" so I'm pretty sure they still went to SLP for the conversion in 2000 at least.
__________________
69 Z28 JL8 4 wheel disc brakes - being restored
09 Silverado Z71
JL8Jeff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 06:46 PM   #23
BarneyMobile
9 Second Club
 
BarneyMobile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Merchantville
Posts: 518
iTrader: (2)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon View Post
the early ones yes. the later ones 00-02 were done in house by GM and not slp.


98s has 12 gallon gas tanks and no fuel return.

98/99 had a bigger cam than 01-02 (01-02 had a deleted egr, ls6 intake and smaller ls6 cam to pass emissions).

98's also had 28 lb injectors

all ls1's have weak rod bolts. ask dustin.

the powersteering cooler is mostly on ss's and ws6's. rare on a low level.
98's had 15.5 gal fuel tanks and where the only LS1 powered F-bodies that had a fuel return line. No F-body ever received an LS6 cam from the factory.
__________________
Twisted Minds Racing

2000 SS M6
9.71 @ 142
BarneyMobile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 07:47 PM   #24
Mike
BadMod
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: hamilton, nj
Posts: 8,889
iTrader: (17)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
the z28 I stripped had one, that is why I asked.
my car has one
__________________
So much stupid, so little time.


Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva View Post
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
Mercerville MotorSports, LLC
Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2009, 09:38 PM   #25
NJ Torque
11 Second Club
 
NJ Torque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 4,620
iTrader: (29)
Social Networks:

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyMobile View Post
98's had 15.5 gal fuel tanks and where the only LS1 powered F-bodies that had a fuel return line. No F-body ever received an LS6 cam from the factory.
Correct. Some came with "LS6" blocks, but never a full LS6 motor or cam...
__________________
1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.

2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.

2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
NJ Torque is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds > Tech Forums > General Tech


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Sponsor List














All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.