? about torque arm.... - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

transmaro93 · 06-10-2009, 08:16 PM

if i have the rear suspension at normal ride height (tires on the ground not lifted) can i remove the torque arm? or is there to much tension on it.... and is the car still rollable without a torque arm in place?... i ask because im pulling my engine and trans soon... i plan on doing this wiht the rear tires on ramps so i can get the pivot enough to pull the engine/trans out from under the car... obviously i have to take the torque arm off... didnt know if i could do that with tires on the ground... then i need the car rollable in case i have to move it.... with no trans can i still roll the car around with out a torque arm....? i plan to get a new trans crossmember with the torque arm mount in it so it takes it away from the trans but wasnt planning onthat yet.... thanks for any help..

sweetbmxrider · 06-10-2009, 08:18 PM

as long as the lca's are there, should roll fine.

LTb1ow · 06-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Just take the TA off before you begin work.

transmaro93 · 06-10-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

as long as the lca's are there, should roll fine.

yea thats what i figured... but just thought id make sure... dont need a catastrophe on my hands...

sweetbmxrider · 06-10-2009, 08:28 PM

yeah but he is asking if you can do it with the weight on it or jacked up.....not sure how you could get it off with the tires still on the ground though. we are talking about brandon here....

LTb1ow · 06-10-2009, 08:29 PM

Take bolts out. Slide TA off. Simple no?

sweetbmxrider · 06-10-2009, 08:31 PM

hahaha i guess it is. i never had one off yet

transmaro93 · 06-10-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

yeah but he is asking if you can do it with the weight on it or jacked up.....not sure how you could get it off with the tires still on the ground though. we are talking about brandon here....

man whats that sopposed to mean.... when i did my first clutch i had the car on a lift... it was a PITA to get the TA off... i had to pry it out from the trans mount.... and the TA immediiatly moved up into the floor becuase the weight of the rear was twisting it up... and i had a hell of a time getting back in that way... i think if the weight is on the ground it might level it out and slide off...

Formulalt1 · 06-10-2009, 11:47 PM

It will rise toward the floorpan as you remove the connection to the tranny but there isn't a ton of pressure on it and like stated with the control arms in place and the rest of the rear suspension it will roll just fine.

Edit- Also you are correct you need the tires off the ground to get it to move back in place or else you are trying to move the car's weight (forward or rear motion)by the arm.

LTb1ow · 06-11-2009, 08:35 AM

Either way Brandon, that stock piece should have no place on your new setup, so take a cutting torch to it.

camaro2you · 06-11-2009, 08:54 AM

You will need to lower the rear down some you will not be able to get the bolts out they will hit the trans tunnel.

transmaro93 · 06-11-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy

Either way Brandon, that stock piece should have no place on your new setup, so take a cutting torch to it.

HAH.... yea its deff getting replaced with a tubular one and relocated mount... but thats after i get the front suspension all done first... im not putting the car on the road till all suspension motor trans and rear and supporting mods (fuel and stuff) are done... iv been saving for quite some time so hopfully i wont run out of money but we will see..

as for everybody else thank you for the input... ill just take the torque arm off before i put the rear tires on the ramps...... thanks agian...

sweetbmxrider · 06-11-2009, 04:26 PM

let jsfboa know if you need a hand or 20

iroc86NJ · 06-11-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro2you

You will need to lower the rear down some you will not be able to get the bolts out they will hit the trans tunnel.

yep your still gonna need to jack up the car and support the chassis to drop the rear IF you intend on pulling the TA completely.

When I did my swap i took the whole TA out first. Had no problems pushing the car around as a roller with LCA's only.

transmaro93 · 06-12-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by iroc86NJ

yep your still gonna need to jack up the car and support the chassis to drop the rear IF you intend on pulling the TA completely.

When I did my swap i took the whole TA out first. Had no problems pushing the car around as a roller with LCA's only.

exactly what i wanted to know.... thanks a bunch....

as for jsfboa... i really dont "need" help i should be able to do it on my own... but if you guys want to come hand out your more than welcome im sure i can use an extra set of hands here and there... not trying to have a party though... cause lets face it prob will get less work done that way... im trying to get the motor pulled... the undercarraige all rust proofed and the subframe back under the car rolling in a weeks time.... gonna shoot to start it 2 weekends from now... guys who are invited know who you are.... the "regulars"

sweetbmxrider · 06-12-2009, 07:39 PM

i guess i can work without beer....i'm always game to lend a hand or bring some tools. just need to get there, which is somewhat feasible since its just brick.

LTb1ow · 06-12-2009, 07:56 PM

Beer is an important tool needed when dealing with LT1.

transmaro93 · 06-12-2009, 08:26 PM

you guys can drink... i dont... but by all means if you byob i dont care.. just dont get sloppy drunk haha

DevilDougWS6 · 06-12-2009, 08:41 PM

DONT DO IT BRANDONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just remember how much work got done on al's camaro when we had a bbq

sweetbmxrider · 06-12-2009, 09:19 PM

hahahaa

noboundreez2345 · 06-12-2009, 09:23 PM

If I'm not working I'm always down to lend a hand.

transmaro93 · 06-12-2009, 10:01 PM

well i dont know about you guys... but when i get into a job... i dont stop working... maybe just to drink some fluids to keep hydrated in the heat... but ill work on that thing for 8-9 hours straight if i have too...

sweetbmxrider · 06-13-2009, 10:23 AM

i could probably put in a good few hours on it. its much easier working on other people's **** for some reason. mine just pisses me off hahaha

DevilDougWS6 · 06-13-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by transmaro93

well i dont know about you guys... but when i get into a job... i dont stop working... maybe just to drink some fluids to keep hydrated in the heat... but ill work on that thing for 8-9 hours straight if i have too...

HARDCORE man!

and be careful with those tall boys, dont want to get hurt now.

BigAls87Z28 · 06-18-2009, 06:43 PM

Helllls yeah lets duit!!

TA is really easy, dont worry about it big guy. That puppy will come out nice and easy.