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06-13-2010, 08:45 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fairview/PC hollar, WV
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Trouble with Island Dragway
Well, idk what it is with Island, but after my car broke down (not one single pass down the track, broke in the staging lanes, with a nasty ATF/Coolant/Oil leak and blown hg/warped head) they refused to give me a refund. I understand no refund on the helmet, and the 5 bucks is, imo, not worth arguing over (it's just $5, even though I hardly wore it) but the no refund on the entry (just $20 difference between a $35 racer ticket and a $15 spectator) was downright dirty.
Yes, I was the one with the Maroon T/A who pulled himself outta the staging lanes (not the other car that broke, I believe it was a dark 4-door accord, that put fluids on the track). With no fewer than 3-dozen people who saw me pull myself out (the guy was waving me to pull out on the track, and I gave him the no go sign and pulled off to the side until we could get 'er pushed back around). Yes, I put a small puddle of fluids in the staging lanes, but h***, at least it isn't 2000' of fluids on the track. Other than Kathy and the other track owner, everyone, incl. the employees, felt I should have had a cash refund (after all, I am visiting on leave and break at work). What if I were to trailer a car out there, fire it up, break something on the trailer before I go down the 1320' ... what then? Would you still not give any refund?
I sure hope you all are happy with the $20 you saved by this highway robbery, b/c you bet your A that I'll be warning others about you all. And you'll probably never catch me out there again (after all, my parents live much closer to E-town than they do to Island ... I just liked the extra T&T runs at Island, especially given that I'm still getting the hang of the T/A).
- JR
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06-13-2010, 08:59 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulletbird
Well, idk what it is with Island, but after my car broke down (not one single pass down the track, broke in the staging lanes, with a nasty ATF/Coolant/Oil leak and blown hg/warped head) they refused to give me a refund. I understand no refund on the helmet, and the 5 bucks is, imo, not worth arguing over (it's just $5, even though I hardly wore it) but the no refund on the entry (just $20 difference between a $35 racer ticket and a $15 spectator) was downright dirty.
Yes, I was the one with the Maroon T/A who pulled himself outta the staging lanes (not the other car that broke, I believe it was a dark 4-door accord, that put fluids on the track). With no fewer than 3-dozen people who saw me pull myself out (the guy was waving me to pull out on the track, and I gave him the no go sign and pulled off to the side until we could get 'er pushed back around). Yes, I put a small puddle of fluids in the staging lanes, but h***, at least it isn't 2000' of fluids on the track. Other than Kathy and the other track owner, everyone, incl. the employees, felt I should have had a cash refund (after all, I am visiting on leave and break at work). What if I were to trailer a car out there, fire it up, break something on the trailer before I go down the 1320' ... what then? Would you still not give any refund?
I sure hope you all are happy with the $20 you saved by this highway robbery, b/c you bet your A that I'll be warning others about you all. And you'll probably never catch me out there again (after all, my parents live much closer to E-town than they do to Island ... I just liked the extra T&T runs at Island, especially given that I'm still getting the hang of the T/A).
- JR
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its not their fault you broke. you left them with your mess to clean up. you got your difference between spectators and racer...thats about right. you gained entrance to their track at which is a 15 dollar fee. so you feel that you should have gained entrance to the track FREE because YOU broke YOUR car and left THEM to clean up YOUR mess?????
you my friend need to re-evaluate the situation
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06-13-2010, 09:03 PM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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It isn't their fault though that your car broke though
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06-13-2010, 09:03 PM
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13 Second Club
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Isn't this why you sign a waiver before racing?
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06-13-2010, 09:04 PM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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Location: Ewing, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulletbird
but the no refund on the entry (just $20 difference between a $35 racer ticket and a $15 spectator) was downright dirty.
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Are you saying that you asked for a $20 refund to make up the difference between racing and spectating, and they refused to give you anything back, or you asked for a refund, and they gave you only the $20 difference?
Either way, there are several signs at the gate that state that the track doesn't offer cash refunds. IIRC, they state, "No cash refunds, no exceptions"
- Justin
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06-13-2010, 09:57 PM
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13 Second Club
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you have to look at it from their side boss, they took upon the assumption that as a racer youre a bigger liability, would you be as upset if some guy flipped and wiped out an entire night before you can get a run it?
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06-13-2010, 10:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fairview/PC hollar, WV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Are you saying that you asked for a $20 refund to make up the difference between racing and spectating, and they refused to give you anything back, or you asked for a refund, and they gave you only the $20 difference?
Either way, there are several signs at the gate that state that the track doesn't offer cash refunds. IIRC, they state, "No cash refunds, no exceptions"
- Justin
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Yes, I am saying I asked for a $20 refund and didn't get it. No, if I got the $20 refund, I would'a been happy. I still stayed to help a friend of mine, who was out for his first day, and also is from WV, and the fact that I didn't race meant I got to see his reactions and such, and give him more pointers than I would have been able to give otherwise (got him from a .336 R/T to a .019 R/T first day).
And the fact is, by the time I was back there for the refund, I had already seen some cars go down the track, thus, as I stated, I understand that, even if I had decided to go back home, I might have only gotten the difference, as I said, understandable.
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06-13-2010, 10:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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its your responsibility to make sure that your vehicle is in running condition before you race. that money you paid went towards the cleanup of fluids you made....which by the way is an environmental hazard
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06-13-2010, 10:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Well, idk what it is with you. Lets say you went to a hockey game and threw up in the stands because your drunk,are they going to give you your money back for your ticket? No because you messed up.
That fee is there to help make the track available for people to race and keep them off the streets racing. You made a thread because of $20.
If they dont give your money back how are they suppose to get payed to clean up your mess no matter how small or large the spill is. So you pulled yourself out of the staging lanes, were you looking to get valet service out the gate? Because they were still left to clean up your mess, you have now created a mess that the rest of the racers have to wait to race until the mess is cleaned up.
Big deal your parents live near etown what does that have to do with anything,get a job get your own place.
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06-13-2010, 10:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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So let me get this straight. You pay your racing entry fee, you break your car and you want a refund because your ****box broke?  That is CLASSIC. It's not their fault your car blew a headgasket and started puking just about every fluid there is. You're not entitled to a refund, they didn't do you wrong or dirty, that's the way it goes at ANY track. It sucks...but that's life. What does you being a visitor or being on work leave have to do with you getting a refund?
You can trash talk Island all you want but you're not entitled to anything. Maybe they should have given you the $20 on a kindness angle but that's it. I wouldn't have nor would any other track.
So let me throw this by you. Say you pay your $35 but sit in the pits all night because you changed your mind about racing or ended up helping a friend all night....should you get a partial refund?
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Last edited by Frosty; 06-13-2010 at 10:47 PM.
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06-13-2010, 10:52 PM
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didnt you just post about coolant leaking issues last week? now you are going to the track, and now you are blaming the track?
did a person employed by island break your car? NO
did a person employed by island have to clean up your mess? YES
does island have to pay its employee who cleaned up your mess instead of doing his job? YES
when you can tell us how its islands fault your car tried to do an impression of BP then ill give you the 20 bucks you are so butt sore about myself
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-13-2010, 10:54 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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If you payed and there was a problem with the track,maybe the tree wasnt working, it was nighttime and they lost power then you should get a refund, but this is not in their hands its in your hands, deal with it.
to go with cbrmike...So BP's well is spewing oil,it must be the the national oceanic peoples fault because the ocean got in the way and is making it difficult to fix the broken well. national oceanic people should pay BP. ( that dont make sense, thats my point,neither does your post )
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Last edited by DaSkinnyGuy; 06-13-2010 at 10:57 PM.
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06-13-2010, 10:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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That track did nothing wrong. Case closed. They weren't negligent, unless of course they secretly sabotaged the car. Hmmmm, conspiracy in the making?
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06-14-2010, 12:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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06-14-2010, 01:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
That track did nothing wrong. Case closed. They weren't negligent, unless of course they secretly sabotaged the car. Hmmmm, conspiracy in the making?
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maybe melissa looked at his car from a distance and it started pooping parts
(i.e mikes sig)
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06-14-2010, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
maybe melissa looked at his car from a distance and it started pooping parts
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melissa is?.....
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06-14-2010, 04:33 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Originally Posted by 92camarodude
melissa is?.....
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someone cool....not like you
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06-14-2010, 05:46 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somerset County
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Originally Posted by Mulletbird
And you'll probably never catch me out there again
- JR
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GOOD! I'd be far more upset if I had to continue sharing one of my favorite tracks with a douchebag such as yourself. Good riddance.
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06-14-2010, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
maybe melissa looked at his car from a distance and it started pooping parts
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 the buggie has not fallen victim yet.
Anyway, you knew you had a problem, went to the track anyway and broke and now your pissed that Island won't give you your money back? They have every right to keep the cash, it was your mistake to try to race it with a problem.
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yep. jenn loves teh leghumping.. so much so that most ppl dont realize her name belongs to a chick 
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06-14-2010, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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i think tracks should charge double for race admission then you get back half of your money if you dont oil down the track or cause any spills
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06-14-2010, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
i think tracks should charge double for race admission then you get back half of your money if you dont oil down the track or cause any spills 
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I would agree with this.
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06-14-2010, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
maybe melissa looked at his car from a distance and it started pooping parts
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lol, for a while my car broke every time i went to island... and then broke every time she came to atco...
its been good in its current state of mods though :knocks on wood:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-14-2010, 08:10 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
lol, for a while my car broke every time i went to island...
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Well didn't you demand a refund?
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06-14-2010, 08:11 AM
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BadMod
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2 of the 4 times ive had my car there i won as much money as the fixes cost
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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06-14-2010, 08:23 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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lol, nice
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