 |
|
11-05-2012, 06:55 PM
|
#1
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
A couple quick brake questions.
I did front brakes on my 99 but when I did the passenger side the bolts were frozen and snapped. I Got a new bracket and thought the guide pins were part of the bracket, and obviously they aren't, I wanna order them but they seem to not come with the rubber grommet. Is that a big deal? Is that a special part and does it have a name? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...633950_0_4222_ this is what I need but doesn't have the grommet pictured.
Is 70 ft LBS The right spec for the calipers? I cant find anything on the brackets though anyone have the spec?
Final question, I also have rotors and pads for the rear but I heard I need to adjust the parking brake to install them, what tools do I need to do this?
I tried google, and the ls1tech search/brake stickies and they are pretty much useless.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-05-2012, 07:26 PM
|
#2
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
I found the boot kit at rock auto. Just need the other questions answered. Thanks in advanced.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-05-2012, 10:39 PM
|
#3
|
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Millville & Little ferry New Jersey
Posts: 454
|
The caliper bracket bolts are 74 ft lbs
Guide pins 23 ft lb on the front and 27 on the rear
Just changing the rotors and pads you will not be messing with the parking brake on the rear backing plates unless you want to readjust the tension on the parking brake
Then there is a pin wheel on the inside of each backing plate
__________________
2002 Z/28 = Firemutt Racing 370 w/ Cam, Trick Flow heads, TPIS 90mm Intake & 90mm T.B., Vigilante 3600 t.c., Michael's Transmissions Built 4L60E.
QTP Headers, Mufflex Stainless Y-pipe, Pypes Performance Exhaust, Moser 12-bolt w/ 33 spline axles,Truetrac & 3:73's., Spohn.
Cartek Tuned...
Last edited by ins0mnia24; 11-05-2012 at 10:40 PM.
|
|
|
11-06-2012, 03:36 PM
|
#4
|
Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 12,573
|
See if somebody parting a car out can help you. Might be easier than sorting through all the catalogs only to be told "that's a dealer only part".
|
|
|
11-06-2012, 04:23 PM
|
#5
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Highland Mills, NY
Posts: 1,915
|
You can get a whole caliper with brackets pins and bolts for 100$
But to adjust the parking brake all you need is a screw driver. But it isn't required to be adjusted to fit the rotor.
__________________
2000 Camaro SS 610rwhp/570rwtq LS2 440, 12 bolt 3.73, tranzilla t56
|
|
|
11-06-2012, 06:13 PM
|
#6
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
I had a hell of a time explaining the part to stores. I ordered from rock auto even though they kill me on shipping price and times. I guess I can wait another week to drive the car...
Myfirstz...
I ordered the bracket already thinking that the pins were part of the bracket, I only spent $17 on the bracket so I guess I'm making out like a bandit.. It just sucks I'm dumping all this money into a car I'm trying to get rid of.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
Last edited by WayFast84; 11-06-2012 at 06:15 PM.
|
|
|
11-06-2012, 07:35 PM
|
#7
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Highland Mills, NY
Posts: 1,915
|
See it everyday at work. haha
Sounds pretty good. I always end up just getting the entire thing because its quicker.
Least you can sleep better knowing you sold it with working brakes
__________________
2000 Camaro SS 610rwhp/570rwtq LS2 440, 12 bolt 3.73, tranzilla t56
|
|
|
11-06-2012, 08:46 PM
|
#8
|
Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hamilton, Mercer county
Posts: 4,141
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WayFast84
I ordered from rock auto even though they kill me on shipping price and times.
|
Rarely do I ever find parts cheaper than Rock even when you add the shipping costs in.that is,EXACT parts compared not counting no name POS off ebay. And mail order is mail order, you cant have cheap, fast AND reliable
|
|
|
11-07-2012, 06:41 AM
|
#9
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
Rockauto is great but a problem I frequently run into is when I order multiple items they all come from different places. This means sometimes I'm paying double or triple the shipping price and I'll have one part in but I will be waiting for my other parts to trickle in.
The reason it's gonna take so long is they shipped USPS. I could've had them over-nighted but I'd rather wait a week since I have a working DD and its not like I need my car to get to school or work then pay $50 for a rubber gromet.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-07-2012, 07:48 AM
|
#10
|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arm pit of the world... NJ
Posts: 2,677
|
Advance auto in Edison have the boots in stock. Should have looked around before ordering them!
__________________
John
|
|
|
11-07-2012, 08:09 AM
|
#11
|
Admin.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,165
|
the take away here is inspect, then buy parts, then do the job. then you find out the issues and have all the parts in hand before you start.
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
|
|
|
11-07-2012, 09:08 AM
|
#12
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
Advance auto in Edison have the boots in stock. Should have looked around before ordering them!
|
I needed more than the boots. It's whatever, I could've gotten everything from a part store around the corner but I didn't want to order a whole kit just for the boot.. I also never heard of the company that made the pin they wanted me to order. I got acdelco replacements so I actually know what the company is.
Bonzo. I guess your right, but like I said I thought the pin was part of the bracket so I'd still be in the same situation.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-07-2012, 09:31 AM
|
#13
|
Admin.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,165
|
to add...when doing calipers on these (now old) cars get the calipers that come with brackets - and the lifetime warranty. it's the best way in the long run.
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 11:07 AM
|
#14
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
I just have a quick question again.. I finally got my boots in and went to wrap up the passenger side. Are the pins supposed to be pressed into the bracket? The pins wiggle out of the bracket very easily(when not bolted up), and even when the whole thing is bolted up the whole caliper wiggles slightly.
I really cant figure this out and honestly doesn't seem safe.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 11:31 AM
|
#15
|
11 second club / Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Berlin, NJ
Posts: 7,148
|
The long pins should be lubed and the caliper slides on them to compensate for pad wear
__________________
2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 11:40 AM
|
#16
|
Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,368
|
You may have to run an oversized pin if you have significant bore wear.
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 12:38 PM
|
#17
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
It's a brand new Pin and brand new bracket, I lubed them, and got them pretty tight but my torque wrench is too long to fit in the well. If the caliper is allowed to move slightly I think it's fine. If not I'll take the bracket somewhere and have them look at it and get a better pin.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 01:14 PM
|
#18
|
Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,368
|
Where did you get the mount and pin from? If the mount was made in china but the pin is usa, you have a standard pin going into a metric mount so there will be excessive play.
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 01:52 PM
|
#19
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
The bracket is a-1 cardone and pins are Acdelco.
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 01:53 PM
|
#20
|
Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,368
|
Yeah a-1 cardone are made overseas while acdelco is America.
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 02:07 PM
|
#21
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
A1 has no pins listed. What should I go for?
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 03:15 PM
|
#22
|
Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,368
|
Acdelco have brackets?
|
|
|
11-14-2012, 04:11 PM
|
#23
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
Nah. I'm gonna take my stock bracket to my grandpas, that old fart will have something up his sleeve to get the pin(and broken bolt) out so I can just use the AC pins.
If that doesn't work cts v brakes?
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-20-2012, 12:50 PM
|
#24
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edison
Posts: 7,856
|
Just an update. We couldn't get the pin out of the stock bracket. I ordered a set of calipers and brackets off eBay for $40 and I swapped the bracket today. It worked out perfectly, looks safe to drive, I just need some brake clean and to paint the bracket(it's silver) and ill be testing my new brake pads and rotors.
Thanks for the help!
__________________
1984 Firebird
2000 Z28
2023 Tacoma
|
|
|
11-30-2012, 09:28 AM
|
#25
|
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
Posts: 13,598
|
Cardone caliper brackets are remaned, not "made in China"
If you are replacing a caliper, sometimes it's nice to spend a little bit more money on a caliper with bracket. If you are replacing pads and run into a busted bolt in a caliper bracket, it makes very little sense to buy a whole caliper.
Sounds like who ever did the brakes on the car prior did not lube up the pins.
__________________
2/20/2013: They Day the ****s Stopped
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|