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		|  06-28-2005, 11:34 PM | #1 |  
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				gonna try to convince my parents to let me get a motorcycle
			 
 
			
			Alex, Ted and I were talking the other night at the weekly North Jersey meet about getting motorcycles. I've always wanted one, but my parents would never let me get one. I figured since I'll be turning 21 in august, they might lighten up. I'm also gonna play up the "cheaper than a car" angle...insurance, gas, pretty much everything is cheaper with a bike. hopefully they'll crack and let me buy one. I plan on taking a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course at Farleigh Dickinson sometime soon, so I can bypass the road test at the DMV, and get an insurance break as well. Then, i'll have to find a bike...I want a Yamaha YZF-R6. from what i hear, they have good handling, and are a good beginner bike.
 seems everyone I know is getting a motorcycle. Two guys in my class at school are getting Kawasaki ZX-6R's, and another guy may be getting a Suzuki GSX-R. He's ridden before, so he doesn't know if he'll go for a bigger bike than a 600. And a girl i'm friends with is getting a Triumph Sprint. I know Alex is looking for a GSX-R600.
 
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		|  06-28-2005, 11:43 PM | #2 |  
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			my bikes insurance was 1300 a year, but i had it before i was 21, so i forget what the rate would be now....
 when you call a bike "great handling" remember that the handling of a motorcycle is more the riders ability than the bike itself.....
 
 i prefer the cbr600rr and the ninja zx6-r over both the yamaha and the suzuki six hundreds.... felt more responsive and nimble to me personally....
 
 ive also ridden the cbr954rr, a cbr 1000rr, and a 04 r1.....all three were similar with the 2 newer bikes feeling a little better than the 954.........
 
 have fun with whatever you get.......
 
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				 my bikes insurance was 1300 a year, but i had it before i was 21, so i forget what the rate would be now....
 when you call a bike "great handling" remember that the handling of a motorcycle is more the riders ability than the bike itself.....
 
 i prefer the cbr600rr and the ninja zx6-r over both the yamaha and the suzuki six hundreds.... felt more responsive and nimble to me personally....
 
 ive also ridden the cbr954rr, a cbr 1000rr, and a 04 r1.....all three were similar with the 2 newer bikes feeling a little better than the 954.........
 
 have fun with whatever you get.......
 |  i realize that a lot has to do with the rider's ability. i guess what i meant to say was that the R6 is easier to handle than some of the other bikes in that class. Most of the reviews I've read about it have said that it's light compared to other 600cc bikes (except the ZX-6R), and isn't as wide as most, making it easier for the rider to take turns.
		 
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			If you're 21 and still living with your parents, save the money you would spend on a bike and get an apartment.
		 
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		|  06-29-2005, 09:26 AM | #5 |  
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Im looking for a 2001 GSXR600, because its the first year of fuel injection.  And from what I hear, if you take the driving course you save a buttload of money on insurance.
		 
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				 If you're 21 and still living with your parents, save the money you would spend on a bike and get an apartment. |  i'm waiting till i get out of school to look for a place to live. Right now, I work a barely-over minimum wage job, and about 3/4 of my paycheck goes to my parents (i owe them for various things...insurance payments, phone bills, etc.)
 
Once I get out of school, though, I'll be working at some sort of luxury car dealer, making real money. then i can worry about finding my own place.
		 
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		|  06-29-2005, 11:01 AM | #7 |  
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			oh, and Alex......   
....that's all I have to say   
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		|  06-29-2005, 11:44 AM | #8 |  
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			I would love to get a bike .... But after buying the Firehawk in October, I'm mainly trying to save now for a dp on a house.  But it's definitely a possibility in the future.  Hey, you're 21 and there's nothing wrong w/ living w/ your parents (it actually helps you save, if you rent it's really hard), now is probably the time to get it.
		 
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		|  06-29-2005, 11:50 AM | #9 |  
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				 my bikes insurance was 1300 a year, but i had it before i was 21, so i forget what the rate would be now....
 when you call a bike "great handling" remember that the handling of a motorcycle is more the riders ability than the bike itself.....
 
 i prefer the cbr600rr and the ninja zx6-r over both the yamaha and the suzuki six hundreds.... felt more responsive and nimble to me personally....
 
 ive also ridden the cbr954rr, a cbr 1000rr, and a 04 r1.....all three were similar with the 2 newer bikes feeling a little better than the 954.........
 
 have fun with whatever you get.......
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		|  06-29-2005, 06:05 PM | #10 |  
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I got a quote from them for a 2005 Ducati Monster 620 and it was only $173 a year! I'm 21 and I've lost my license before, there is no way you should be paying that much
		 
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		|  06-29-2005, 06:44 PM | #11 |  
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			umm i had rider...
 i had a brand new bike with full coverage,and i was under 21.   it was like 1259 or somthing like that....
 
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		|  06-29-2005, 07:04 PM | #12 |  
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			first thing to do is get yourself a permit. it is a short test, pretty easy actually. just go to any dmv station and get the book to study from. 
next thing is to get proper training. friends who have been riding for a while are great, but professional teaching will help you avoid all those little bad habits your friends don't even realize they have. it will also lower your insurance when you do get a bike of your own. 
http://www.rider-ed.com/index.htm 
another benefit of riders ed courses is that you don't have to take a road test at dmv. the completion of the course gives you a certificate that you can walk into dmv with and walk out with your new license.
 
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		|  06-29-2005, 09:13 PM | #13 |  
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				 first thing to do is get yourself a permit. it is a short test, pretty easy actually. just go to any dmv station and get the book to study from. 
next thing is to get proper training. friends who have been riding for a while are great, but professional teaching will help you avoid all those little bad habits your friends don't even realize they have. it will also lower your insurance when you do get a bike of your own. 
http://www.rider-ed.com/index.htm 
another benefit of riders ed courses is that you don't have to take a road test at dmv. the completion of the course gives you a certificate that you can walk into dmv with and walk out with your new license.
 
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tim |  We got the manual off the DMV's website, gonna take the test within the next week or so, and the Rider Ed is held at FDU down the road from us.
		 
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				 first thing to do is get yourself a permit. it is a short test, pretty easy actually. just go to any dmv station and get the book to study from. 
next thing is to get proper training. friends who have been riding for a while are great, but professional teaching will help you avoid all those little bad habits your friends don't even realize they have. it will also lower your insurance when you do get a bike of your own. 
http://www.rider-ed.com/index.htm 
another benefit of riders ed courses is that you don't have to take a road test at dmv. the completion of the course gives you a certificate that you can walk into dmv with and walk out with your new license.
 
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tim |  We got the manual off the DMV's website, gonna take the test within the next week or so, and the Rider Ed is held at FDU down the road from us. |  yup. all we have to do is pay the $5, pass the permit test, then pay for the MSF course. and then buy a motorcycle.
		 
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		|  06-29-2005, 10:32 PM | #15 |  
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			Bikes... in my opinion.... just aren't safe.
 Not just silly riders.... but many people ignore them.
 
 Or.... just get a turbo hyabuusa?
 
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				 Bikes... in my opinion.... just aren't safe.
 Not just silly riders.... but many people ignore them.
 
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			eh, I want a bike, but I would rather spend the money on another car personaly.  But you couldnt catch me dead on a crotch rocket.  4 wheels > 2.
 
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		|  06-30-2005, 08:09 AM | #18 |  
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			You need to slow down with all these great ideas of ways to spend money you don't even have.  I know it's fun to search around and find things you'd like to have, but you should be concentrating on getting a solid job that pays good money, then finding a place to live.  Then, if you have any money left, look for something to play with.  I saved up $35K so I could buy a house and not pay rent.  And that's after paying back student loans.  At 21 you should be happy to have basic transportation and a roof over your head.  I don't understand how some of you younger people can even think of paying more than $1500 a year for car insurance.
		 
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			They haven't been out where they have to pay for everything from food to garbage collection.  Once the bills start, they'll appreciate the need for low insurance, fuel-friendly transportation, and a career. 
Plan ahead.  You'll need plenty of money just to survive, so pack away what little you can earn now.  Then when school ends, find that career job and keep socking it away.  Before you know it, you'll be married and dirt poor once again.      
So like I said above, save for that apartment.
		
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		|  06-30-2005, 10:47 AM | #20 |  
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			I understand what alot of you older guys are saying, but im still 19, and I wont have my associates degree for another year so Im not worried about getting an apartment, since my car is soon to be payed off anyway     Im finacially well right now for my age.  Im just going to get it out of my system while Im young, so I dont regret not doing it when Im older with an assload more bills to pay.  Right now my only bills are one maxed out credit card.
 
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			im taking a motorcycle safety course in august with a friend.  if you pass, they wave the road test.  i also plan on getting a bike in the near future.   
Want the harley, but going for the crotch rocket     
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			Fear this.. lol  It's pretty quick, 600cc's and weighs a lot less than a regular street bike. I've been riding it illegaly for the past 2 years or so in the pine barrens down the shore      I gotta get a new battery for it, some TLC, install the new fork seals and boots, get my license and I'm good to go.
     
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