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			Actually just found this!   
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		| Allows for the attachment of five point harnesses in the correct safety position All bars are made from 1.5" diameter heat-treated steel and are powder coated red or black.
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			Thats whats up! i like that. I just put the back seat in my camaro down and put **** under the seat but i like that even more! If you got plans on paper how to do that let me know because thats hot! i ******** hate people in the back on my car and thats an even better excuse not to drive more than one person around!
 
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		| Allows for the attachment of five point harnesses in the correct safety position All bars are made from 1.5" diameter heat-treated steel and are powder coated red or black.
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			where does it mount to? is it like some sort of chassis or suspension brace?
		 
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			So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it?    Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume...
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				 So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*   Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume... |  I get screwed over and have to drive people around which i don't like doing. I have a few punk ass lazy friends who are broke and don't drive their cars anywhere because they're lazy ****s and i get ****ed over going someplace and getting asked for rides. I should just put a taxi sign on the roof and start charging people since gas is really expensive.  
I personally think that looks really good and i don't like the back seat in the car as is. I just keep the back part down and its some what looks like that.
		 
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			i like having the back seat when needed though. i'm with paul though, i put my seat down when im not using it
		 
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			i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it
 btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob
 
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				 So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*   Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume... |  Weight Reductions!!!
 
Im not sure on how much the entire back seat assembly weight's, but Im sure Little G or NJSPEEDER could tell you more accuretly.
 
I never drive passengers in my car. Even if their light weights I still think my car is dragging ass.
		 
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				 So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*   Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume... |  Weight Reductions!!!
 
Im not sure on how much the entire back seat assembly weight's, but Im sure Little G or NJSPEEDER could tell you more accuretly.
 
I never drive passengers in my car. Â*Even if their light weights I still think my car is dragging ass. |  no thats you missing third
		 
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				 i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it
 btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob
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				 So you removed the back seat, whats really the point of it? Â*   Â*Besides not driving more then one person around, which i dont do anyways. Just for looks i assume... |  Weight Reductions!!!
 
Im not sure on how much the entire back seat assembly weight's, but Im sure Little G or NJSPEEDER could tell you more accuretly.
 
I never drive passengers in my car. Â*Even if their light weights I still think my car is dragging ass. |  no thats you missing third |  Um No, Really J0n the jokes really ****ing old and frankly Im tired of it.
		 
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				 i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it
 btw thats not alex's car...its got a 97+ console and a black shiftknob
 |  Really....will it fit up into my 3rd gen? |  not sure...i jsut got the bar myself from a friend...but im going to go with a 5-point bar so i dont need it...i would assume it would fit...ill get you a part number by tonight probably
		 
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				 i got one of those harness bars in black...make me an offer on it
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 |  Really....will it fit up into my 3rd gen? |  not sure...i jsut got the bar myself from a friend...but im going to go with a 5-point bar so i dont need it...i would assume it would fit...ill get you a part number by tonight probably |  good **** let me know because if its good to go i'll come snag that and save it for later.
		 
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			the backseat weighs about 30 lbs. in a 4th gen. the seats themselves are light, since they're made out of foam, but the back piece weighs the most. the rear seat belt brackets are a bitch to take off, GM put Loctite on the bolts. I nearly burnt out the motor on my cordless drill trying to take them out.
 alex, is there a kit you found for the rear seat delete? i know they're out there, i just haven't been able to find them.
 
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			cordless drill? bah
 ratchet and a pipe....loctite wont stand a chance
 
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				 the backseat weighs about 30 lbs. in a 4th gen. the seats themselves are light, since they're made out of foam, but the back piece weighs the most. the rear seat belt brackets are a bitch to take off, GM put Loctite on the bolts. I nearly burnt out the motor on my cordless drill trying to take them out.
 alex, is there a kit you found for the rear seat delete? i know they're out there, i just haven't been able to find them.
 |  I did find kits but they look like a waste of money iMO. I was looking through CZ28, and alot of people say the manufactured ones dont fit very well. Im going to see what kind of hard material I can use, but for starters I want to find a simila carpet material. If I can just get that, I would use a fabric to cover anything un-citely.
		 
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			but what is its purpose? its just a bar to mount a harness and a camera?
		 
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				 but what is its purpose? its just a bar to mount a harness and a camera? |  well, if it was done totally right, there would be a full roll cage in there. that would strengthen the chassis, as well as protect the driver in the event of a rollover.
		 
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			who needs a delete kit? thats like adding the weight right back on, just for looks. And yea those seatbelt bolts are a bitch, not to mention that theyre torx so I tried with my bare hands (i have one of those tool things with like 6 or 8.... ok nevermind ****tiest description ever, but yea)
		 
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				 who needs a delete kit? thats like adding the weight right back on, just for looks. And yea those seatbelt bolts are a bitch, not to mention that theyre torx so I tried with my bare hands (i have one of those tool things with like 6 or 8.... ok nevermind ****tiest description ever, but yea) |  not if you make the kit out of fiberglass    
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			thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to be
		 
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				 thats still unnesessary... just do what I did if you want a clean look... I moved my subs to where the seats used to be |  pics? ialways wanted to remove the back seat and mold some subs in there, with fiberglass of course. ive seen it done in a supra and it looked pretty good.    |  
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			Craig has a rear seat delete panel in his car, it's just flat though, not boxed. Of course it's only in during daily driving, not at the track. I'll see if we can get pics/measurements for you alex, looks VERY simple to make.
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