Russian bomber says hi to our carrier

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Funny how the Russians have all this tech but they still can't keep their servicemen from dismantling expensive equipment to sell for food money.

Thats exactly the problem I mentioned earlier.

[Blacdout96]

America should of built the YF23, I love that plane over the F-22, but what are you gonna do ya know?

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

America should of built the YF23, I love that plane over the F-22, but what are you gonna do ya know?

The YF-23 was a great idea, but it came down to cost and influence. The F/A-22 is a great plane, and a huge step in fighter technology, but it falls slightly short of the competition. What we should do is find a replacement for the B-1, and the A-10. Our inventory is aging rapidly and we are relying on planes like the C-130 and B-52 which are both over 50 years old. With spending at an all time high, and dumb ideas like the tanker replacement concept with Boeing, we need solid foundations for the next several decades.

[1972LT1]

The yf-23 was a cool jet that used a buttload of carbon fiber and other materials to create the wing. If it worked,it would have been great,but everytime they baked one under vaccuum there were air bubbles trapped in it. Remember we didn't see the F-117 Nighthawk for more then 10 years after it was built. Lockheed Skunkworks and Area-51. They wouldn't have decomissioned the SR-71 without a replacement. Just imagine what we haven't seen .......

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by 1972LT1

The yf-23 was a cool jet that used a buttload of carbon fiber and other materials to create the wing. If it worked,it would have been great,but everytime they baked one under vaccuum there were air bubbles trapped in it. Remember we didn't see the F-117 Nighthawk for more then 10 years after it was built. Lockheed Skunkworks and Area-51. They wouldn't have decomissioned the SR-71 without a replacement. Just imagine what we haven't seen .......

Just ta give ya a heads up. The F-117 was actually developed 20 years before we first saw it EVER, in Desert storm. A co-worker of mine was on the development team for the B-2 (He was more part of matinence while they tested it.) And you are right, I mean we still have B-52's in service and are about a decade older then the SR-71 ( which is my favorite plane of all time, thus one of the reasons why I went with a Black, and a little bit of red here and there theme on my car) So there is a replacement for the SR-71, but will they show it yet? I doubt it. Theres two places that hold secrets. One is not hidden, adn the other is Area-51. The other is Edwards Airforce Base, which is also home to Lockheed Martin, which has been the forefront of the most techinical planes over the past 50 years, including the U-2, the SR-71, the F-117, the B-1 and B-2, and the YF-23, but lost the contract to the F-22.Its really only in our wildest dreams as to what they are producing outside the public eye, and most likely is being used, and we dont even have a clue.

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

Just ta give ya a heads up. The F-117 was actually developed 20 years before we first saw it EVER, in Desert storm. A co-worker of mine was on the development team for the B-2 (He was more part of matinence while they tested it.) And you are right, I mean we still have B-52's in service and are about a decade older then the SR-71 ( which is my favorite plane of all time, thus one of the reasons why I went with a Black, and a little bit of red here and there theme on my car) So there is a replacement for the SR-71, but will they show it yet? I doubt it. Theres two places that hold secrets. One is not hidden, adn the other is Area-51. The other is Edwards Airforce Base, which is also home to Lockheed Martin, which has been the forefront of the most techinical planes over the past 50 years, including the U-2, the SR-71, the F-117, the B-1 and B-2, and the YF-23, but lost the contract to the F-22.Its really only in our wildest dreams as to what they are producing outside the public eye, and most likely is being used, and we dont even have a clue.

The B-2 was out long before the development date that was released to the public. It came out about 15 years prior. The SR-71 was an awesome plane, but had a huge problem, it would sometimes explode on takeoff. Because of its high speed and high altitude capabilities, all the connection joints were flexible. On a number of occasions the fuel tanks spontaneously combusted destroying the aircraft on takeoff. A replacement has been in place for a while now, but I'm sure nobody will really see it for another decade or so. The SR-71 started out as a smaller light attack plane called the A-12. You can see one on the deck of the USS Intrepid in NYC. There's also one at NASA's Huntsville Space Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
As for Lockheed Martin, their testing and design facility for highly sensitive projects (Skunk Works) is based out of Groom Lake (Area 51). The Pasadena facility in California is where Boeing develops their sensitive projects (and is where the AL-1A started). Edwards is a testing site for NASA and various aircraft manufacturers because of its massive runway, stable climate, open surroundings, and facility capabilities. The F/A-22 is a Lockheed plane, and the YF-23 was Northrop Grumman.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by SteveR

You can see one on the deck of the USS Intrepid in NYC.

No.

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

No.

They still have it, its right here

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/intrep.../item.php?id=2

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by SteveR

They still have it, its right here

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/intrep.../item.php?id=2

OK... drive into the city right now and find it. Then come by my house so I can laugh at you

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

OK... drive into the city right now and find it. Then come by my house so I can laugh at you

Its stealth, you cant see it

[jims69camaro]

it amazes me how much "vital" knowledge is public, these days. back when i was active, we were still held to "loose lips..." and anything we were instructed on was literally "eyes only". now, it's pretty much out there for anyone who wants to know.

thank god for area 51.

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by Jersey_TA

That was always my favorite plane in all the ace combat games

I'm playing Ace Combat 6, and I can't stop flying the Rafale M! That plane is sick!