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wild!  he was already stealing some hillary supporters after the big divide between them and the obama people...this just might push more over to the republican ticket
		 
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			Where did this woman come from. I would never vote for Obama but reading up on this woman doesn't give me much hope for the Republican party.   |  
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			LOL so McCain tries to smear Obama by saying he has no experience, then nominates Palin who actually  has no experience, other than the two years as Governor    And she's also trying to push the 'turn Alaska into an oil refinery'. How fitting. I don't think this will in any way attract Hillary supporters.
		
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			Workks for me.
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			23% of Hilary supporters already said they are going to vote for McCain after Obama got the delegates.  And most people that were going to vote for Hilary were only going to because she's a woman, so I wouldn't be surprised he if attracts more now.
		 
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					Originally Posted by 12secondv6  Workks for me.
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					Originally Posted by ZCarr  Where did this woman come from. I would never vote for Obama but reading up on this woman doesn't give me much hope for the Republican party.  |  She's not a stupid lady, she has a no nonsense attitude. We'll see how it pans out.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Frosty  She's not a stupid lady, she has a no nonsense attitude. We'll see how it pans out. |  With what experience though? She was only sworn in 20 months ago!    Oh wait, I forgot, she was the mayor of some small town of 7000 in the isolated Alaskan tundra for six years    She was 'no nonsense' in her fight to get that moose crossing sign erected    
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			In all seriousness though, what experience does she have to qualify her for VP? NONE. Whats her foreign policy experience? NONE. Has she toured the globe on a humanitarian effort? NO. Years of experience in Washington? NO. Years of experience dealing with security and military issues? NO. She has absolutely no experience what so ever. This has to be one of the biggest mistakes McCain could have made. He structured a majority of his campaign on reiterating that Obama does not have enough experience to be in office. Then he does this. How does that make him look? It shows that he has NO regard for the integrity of the office in which both he is seeking, and that of the VP as well, by nominating a person that has absolutely NO right serving in it, and that will not even be able to come close to the expected requirements for which the office of the VP is intended.
		 
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			Just curious, what role does the VP truly play in the grand scheme of things?  People are putting so much emphasis on the VP.  Is this a wise choice?  Eh probably not due to the experience.  I'm surprised the governor from MN wasn't picked, same with Romney.  However, in the grand scheme of things I don't really think it's THAT important.  When we have a Congress with the worst approval rating in history and a Congress that has accomplished NOTHING in 2yrs(is that Bush's fault too??) who the hell cares about a VP   
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					Originally Posted by Frosty  Just curious, what role does the VP truly play in the grand scheme of things?  People are putting so much emphasis on the VP.  Is this a wise choice?  Eh probably not due to the experience.  I'm surprised the governor from MN wasn't picked, same with Romney.  However, in the grand scheme of things I don't really think it's THAT important.  When we have a Congress with the worst approval rating in history and a Congress that has accomplished NOTHING in 2yrs(is that Bush's fault too??) who the hell cares about a VP   |  The VP role is supposed to be the one that actually gets dirty. They are the one that travels aiding foreign policy, initiating programs, coordinating issues, meeting with leaders, assisting in policy development, speaking to the public, both at home and abroad, attending planning meetings, making appearances at events. The VP role is very important. America has forgotten that because the current VP has spent eight years in his basement in his underwear playing stratego.
		 
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			Looks like some form of political history will be made this year either way.  I'm not thrilled with either combination so once again it turns into who you want to vote against and not who you want to vote for.  That is the problem with our 2 party setup.
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			What's wrong with stratego??????    
We'll see what happens, her experience hurts her but like I said she's not stupid.  I bet she attracts a good amount of Billary supports that are on the fence.
		
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					Originally Posted by SteveR  He structured a majority of his campaign on reiterating that Obama does not have enough experience to be in office. The he does this. |  But it's true. Obama doesn't have enough experience.  Just watch one of his supporters try to come up with an accomplishment:
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					Originally Posted by Frosty  What's wrong with stratego??????   |    
I'm just saying, he has completely ignored the responsibilities of his office, and instead, waged his own personal war from his basement. Biden has all of the experience and criteria to be a great VP, that was a very good choice. McCain on the other hand, went with an underqualified superficial selection. The only people he will attract with this move from the Hillary camp are the ones that have no clue about politics to begin with and like a little kid, are going to vote based on the shiny thing they see. 
 
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			I can't help to think that he had her in mind after seeing how well Hillry was doing. I think it is about time to have someone else in the white house besides a white guy. Either vote you cast will rock the boat.
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			Picking her was such a slap in the face to so many people in so many ways. Way to pick a VP not based on any actual qualifications. Nope. Pick one because she's a woman! YAY! Is he kidding me? At least hillary would have been deserving of such a role. You may not like her but least she's busted her as to get to where she got. You have to at least give her that respect. What the hell has this woman done?!?! NOTHING!!! And i hate to be morbid but with McCain being as old as he is and the fact that well... **** happens... What in gods green earth would happen if he passes away and this woman becomes the president???????? you REALLY think she would have any clue what so ever of what to do? This move was such a joke and it mocks the potential for such a historic moment. This country is in deep ****. With a tag team that includes one person who basically vows to follow the footsteps of what is probably the worst leader in this history  of this country and a sidekick that has as much experience as a video store manager i dont understand how anyone could possibly even consider such a joke. I'd rather take a chance with someone who actually seems like he wants change than someone who wants to do the same exact thing as bush. is he a great choice? no, but who ever is? but at the end of the day this country needs a whle new direction. picking someone whos a shadow of the current problem and his sidekick who is nothing short of pathetic is not the right direction
		 
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					Originally Posted by SteveR  LOL so McCain tries to smear Obama by saying he has no experience, then nominates Palin who actually  has no experience, other than the two years as Governor    And she's also trying to push the 'turn Alaska into an oil refinery'. How fitting. I don't think this will in any way attract Hillary supporters. |  Agreed.  All the dems have to do to stir the pot is say that this just means more dilling, more of what will  not get us off oil.  
 
I dont see how people who liked Hillary's far left side view on things will all of a sudden go to the republicans, even if McCain isnt as right as Bush was.   
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					Originally Posted by LS1Hawk  23% of Hilary supporters already said they are going to vote for McCain after Obama got the delegates.  And most people that were going to vote for Hilary were only going to because she's a woman, so I wouldn't be surprised he if attracts more now. |  Saying and doing are two different things. Dems have to continue to drum up the Bush stuff, and they can coast themselves into office.  
 
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					Originally Posted by SteveR  The VP role is supposed to be the one that actually gets dirty. They are the one that travels aiding foreign policy, initiating programs, coordinating issues, meeting with leaders, assisting in policy development, speaking to the public, both at home and abroad, attending planning meetings, making appearances at events. The VP role is very important. America has forgotten that because the current VP has spent eight years in his basement in his underwear playing stratego. |  VP is also the President of the Senate.  So a 50/50 tie could be decided by the VP of the US.  VP has a lot of power, you just dont hear about it.
 
I just find it odd that a woman that no one knows, that was just sworn in as gov. of Alaska less then 2 years ago, has risen to possibly be the 2nd most powerful person in the free world?   
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					Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28  I just find it odd that a woman that no one knows, that was just sworn in as gov. of Alaska less then 2 years ago, has risen to possibly be the 2nd most powerful person in the free world?  Does no one question that?
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