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05-06-2009, 08:16 AM
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planetlsx tests the new camaro
Well finally someone other then a magazine testing it. Video included
http://www.planetlsx.com/news/Drag_T...0_Camaro_SS/74
Numbers dont look much different then the LS1 Camaros. Weights a killer.
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05-06-2009, 09:03 AM
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"Those rear tires on the Camaro are nearly 29" tall, and look very heavy. "
that's a damn truck tire.
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05-06-2009, 09:06 AM
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now their saying a 13.51?
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05-06-2009, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miketa95
now their saying a 13.51?
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Thats what they actually ran...Those mag. times were all so similar it sounds like they just got a number from GM and posted it.
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05-06-2009, 10:41 AM
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That camaro is running the same as an ls2 GTO in stock trim.
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05-06-2009, 10:44 AM
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Wow...they suck!
More then a half a second slower then Hot Rod mag.
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05-06-2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Wow...they suck!
More then a half a second slower then Hot Rod mag.
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They said they were hot lapping it, and expected it to pick up about 1/2 second with a proper cool down.
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05-06-2009, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
They said they were hot lapping it, and expected it to pick up about 1/2 second with a proper cool down.
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Yea but ive seen ls1's hot lap and keep running better and better...W/ the modern tech. the car should be less effected by heat.
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05-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
Yea but ive seen ls1's hot lap and keep running better and better...W/ the modern tech. the car should be less effected by heat.
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What modern technology would make the car run faster the hotter it got?
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05-06-2009, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
What modern technology would make the car run faster the hotter it got?
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I didnt mean it like that. I meant ive seen ls1's run faster each run hot laping. LS1's ran better then Lt1s in heat...
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05-06-2009, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
What modern technology would make the car run faster the hotter it got?
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Air conditioning
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05-06-2009, 06:08 PM
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hot lapping is bad
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05-06-2009, 06:10 PM
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Your funny....I almost fell outta my chair.
What i meant was that the newer motors always seem to be less susceptible to heat through the improved technology of the engine
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05-06-2009, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
I didnt mean it like that. I meant ive seen ls1's run faster each run hot laping. LS1's ran better then Lt1s in heat...
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I've seen plenty of LS1s go slower and slower as they were hot lapped. What modern technology do you know of that would make LS engines run faster when they are hot lapped?
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05-06-2009, 06:34 PM
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maybe the airbox location on the camaro could be helping with the heat?
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05-06-2009, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
I've seen plenty of LS1s go slower and slower as they were hot lapped. What modern technology do you know of that would make LS engines run faster when they are hot lapped?
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Ive owned both and the LT1 intake would be scorching hot after 2 runs...when the LS1 would be cool.
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05-06-2009, 06:43 PM
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That didn't answer the question asked.
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05-06-2009, 06:50 PM
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Overall technology of the motor...sorry not a GM engineer can pinpoint it for you.
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05-06-2009, 06:53 PM
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But how would something being under worse conditions make it perform better? That was the question.
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dumbass.
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05-06-2009, 06:57 PM
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But how would something being under worse conditions make it perform better? That was the question.
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lol....im done here....
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05-06-2009, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
Ive owned both and the LT1 intake would be scorching hot after 2 runs...when the LS1 would be cool.
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Hmmn theres a tricky one, guesss only a GM engineer could tell ya aluminum transfers heat better than plastic.... 
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05-06-2009, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
I've seen plenty of LS1s go slower and slower as they were hot lapped. What modern technology do you know of that would make LS engines run faster when they are hot lapped?
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hopes and dreams?
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05-06-2009, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
I didnt mean it like that. I meant ive seen ls1's run faster each run hot laping. LS1's ran better then Lt1s in heat...
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If this was technology based I would have thought it would have been the opposite considering one of those engine is reverse cooled, choosing to cool the heads prior to the block but eh the more runs you get in without a cool down period the hotter its going to get til it levels off.
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05-07-2009, 01:50 AM
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a propeprly warmed engine runs better then a cold engine.........but hot lapping it isnt going to help times. But im sure the fans a air flow to radiator are better on the new camaro then fourth gens. I think they just needed a better driver.
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Originally Posted by Formulalt1
If this was technology based I would have thought it would have been the opposite considering one of those engine is reverse cooled, choosing to cool the heads prior to the block but eh the more runs you get in without a cool down period the hotter its going to get til it levels off.
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The reverse cooling didnt work on the LT1 the way they wanted it to.
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05-07-2009, 02:33 AM
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Quote:
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The reverse cooling didnt work on the LT1 the way they wanted it to.
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As in how? cause everything I read stated that the only reason the LT1 was able to run the compression it was able to run on 87 octane fuel was due to it using reverse flow cooling and I also remember the early brochures and GM material prior to the LS1 hitting the floors stating it would too use reverse flow cooling but due to a patent lawsuit GM was no longer allowed to use this type of cooling in any of its engines, so it changed its design to a standard flow cooling system prior to the LS1 hitting the showroom floor.
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