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transmaro93 · 08-02-2011, 06:38 PM

thats pretty sweet... scary though if people are fireing guns blindly into the woods... you wanna take a ride to bayville adam one of these days see what its about? on a side note you jeep guys know any decent lockers at a fair price... i tried to concour a loose dirt pile we have ouside my work and one rear tire spun and one front spun... so i need lockers... bad... pretty sure the front axle is a dana 30 and a dana 44 in the rear... seeing as a set of detroil lockers are gonna run probably $1K+... i was seeing if there was any other affordable options... not set on lockers i just know lockers are the best for offroading... id consider other options though.. justin you have open rears in your trail rig?\

Tru2Chevy · 08-02-2011, 06:54 PM

Yea, my '96 is regeared, but still open front and rear. Unless I come across a pile of cash before the time comes I am planning on upgrading my rear 8.25 from 27 to 29 spline and running one of the powertrax lockers. Take a picture of your rear dif and post it up - would be nice if the previous owner swapped a D44 in, but they only came stock on some 87-89s with the tow package. Far more common are the D35 and ChryCo 8.25.

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Considering that I live in Wantage, I should find see what's going on with this one...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f360/...erest-1017157/

Doesn't look like it's going anywhere at the moment, but I suppose there is always hope. Where in Wantage do you live? My grandparents own a farm on 565 a few miles north of the Chatterbox.

- Justin

transmaro93 · 08-02-2011, 07:17 PM

you know what i think it is a 35. i donno why 44 poped in my head... lol. i know obvoiuly the stronger you make it the less its gonna break but are the stock d30 and d35 very weak. like is it not even worth buying lockers to fit those axles that are in there? as far as gearing goes i like the way it drives so i dont think ill go higher with the gears

Tru2Chevy · 08-02-2011, 07:59 PM

The Dana 30 front is decent, the D35 is like a 7.5" 10 bolt....not really worth spending money on.

- Justin

transmaro93 · 08-02-2011, 08:18 PM

thoughts on the powertrax "lock rite" product? its the one that just replaces the spider gears rather than the whole diff. I know it will be noisier but i dont really care about that. If i did that front and rear it would save at least $300 from going with standard lockers front and rear. and it wouldnt be dumping to much into a rear that is kinda weak. and they are easier to install... im leaning toward these

B4C · 08-02-2011, 11:22 PM

Detroit full case locker or bust LOL. If you havnt joined Jeepforum already, do it lol. I would be down to take a trip thru Wharton once I get this 8.25 axle in and my new wheel bearings in teh XJ. Dont waste money on the D35 atleast get a 27 spline 8.25 you can always upgrade to the 29 spline axles and carrier.

79T/A · 08-03-2011, 07:07 AM

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Doesn't look like it's going anywhere at the moment, but I suppose there is always hope. Where in Wantage do you live? My grandparents own a farm on 565 a few miles north of the Chatterbox.

I remember you saying that in another thread. I believe it was the yellow barn? I'm a couple miles down the road in Lake Neepaulin by the airport.

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The Dana 30 front is decent, the D35 is like a 7.5" 10 bolt....not really worth spending money on.

Agree. I'm building a front 30 for my heap now and picked up an Aussie locker. It's a lunchbox locker, but to install it properly in a D30 without having to do something wacky like shave some of the ring gear you have to take out the carrier. As long as you don't run a huge tire size on this combo and you are somewhat easy on the skinny pedal, it will hold up just fine. Got a buddy running 35s, 4.88s and a LockRite and in 11 years, he's only broken one axle shaft, and that was due to momentary insanity with the skinny pedal. I've got friends who really like the Aussie and I've helped install a few of them. Simple.

As Justin said, I wouldn't spend any money on that Dana 35. If you're considering any serious wheeling, you can look for a bolt in Dana 44 out of another Jeep, an 8.25 out of a Cherokee, or an 8.8 Ford out of an Explorer (Which would mean a disc brake upgrade too!).

And I've heard good things about the LockRite, too.

Tru2Chevy · 08-03-2011, 04:51 PM

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I remember you saying that in another thread. I believe it was the yellow barn? I'm a couple miles down the road in Lake Neepaulin by the airport.

They are on the corner of 565 and Beemer Church Road - red barns and a big old farmhouse.

- Justin

transmaro93 · 08-03-2011, 08:38 PM

yea im on jeep forum... did alot of reading... and im probably just gonna put a lockrite int he front diff for now. its cheap and seems to work well for most people. as for the rear. is there any chance that my truck has an 8.25 rear in it.? the covers look similar and i cant tell. is there a stamping somewhere i can find. if i keep the 35 they make those super 35 kits.. they are expensive but i dont know how much a used 44 would cost. i dont have the cash right now for it so i guess ill leave it open reared for now. just sucks cause i know its not gonna do well offroad. why would jeep not put posi diffs in these trucks... makes no sense. another question is would a 44 ouit of a wrangler work?

LS1ow · 08-03-2011, 08:52 PM

my friend has a 06 sport thats up 3" on 33" mud terrains with some other stuff and a nice warn on the front. im shure hed be down for some wheelin

Tru2Chevy · 08-03-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by transmaro93

yea im on jeep forum... did alot of reading... and im probably just gonna put a lockrite int he front diff for now. its cheap and seems to work well for most people. as for the rear. is there any chance that my truck has an 8.25 rear in it.? the covers look similar and i cant tell. is there a stamping somewhere i can find. if i keep the 35 they make those super 35 kits.. they are expensive but i dont know how much a used 44 would cost. i dont have the cash right now for it so i guess ill leave it open reared for now. just sucks cause i know its not gonna do well offroad. why would jeep not put posi diffs in these trucks... makes no sense. another question is would a 44 ouit of a wrangler work?

Posi offroad is meh....better than an open rear, but still not anywhere near as good as a locker. And some did get posi rears, but not many.

See here for pics of the D35, D44, and 8.25. Should be able to tell what you have from that. D35 and 8.25 look pretty similar but the 8.25 has a flat bottom that sticks out from the cover a little that the D35 doesn't have. Also, you don't have ABS do you? If you do, it's definitely a D35.

As far as replacing the D35, I would just grab a 29 spline 8.25 (29 spline was stock in 8.25s on 97-01s) and swap that in. That will be all you need unless you plan on getting into some real hardcore wheeling or want to do lots of rock crawling (which we don't have here in NJ).

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my friend has a 06 sport thats up 3" on 33" mud terrains with some other stuff and a nice warn on the front. im shure hed be down for some wheelin

The Replicon?

- Justin

LS1ow · 08-03-2011, 09:47 PM

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The Replicon?

- Justin

YES!

LS1ow · 08-03-2011, 09:52 PM

the REPLICON for all the members who arent friends w. me on FB lol

pics from befor the new warn(burn out the superwinch yankin a diesel out the mud)

sweetbmxrider · 08-03-2011, 10:02 PM

Looks like tire rub.

LS1ow · 08-03-2011, 10:04 PM

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Looks like tire rub.

accually its not really bad. doesnt rub at full lock with the spacers. just rubs upon a decent amount of flex

greenformula92 · 08-05-2011, 08:26 AM

if i could sell my car and buy the winter 4x4 i want i would be in, i haven't been wheeling in years

transmaro93 · 08-05-2011, 07:17 PM

justin thanks for that link... after looking at the pics im pretty sure i have a 8.25 in there alread.. ill see if i can get a VIN breakdown next week to see what came stock on the truck unless someone knows a site that can do it. i have that flat spot onthe bottom of myh rear. there is a bunch of numbers onthe bottom of the pumpkin also anyone know if there is a casting or stamping somwhere that would confirm 100% its a 8.25... if it is an 8.25 this is good cause ill just put a locker int here and one in the front and ill go have some fun. being its a 2000 it should have 29spline axels. i have a pic on my phone ill try and get it up

transmaro93 · 08-05-2011, 07:27 PM

only snapped one before dark but you see the flat spot ont he bottom right... give me some good news please!

crazyblazer87 · 08-06-2011, 05:03 PM

so since we got off topic...... when are we going off roading. my ford is pretty much ready for a trailride through wharton if anyone is interested

transmaro93 · 08-06-2011, 09:32 PM

im ready for some puddle jumpen but nothing crazy till i put lockers in... and it was my thread so i can get off topic if i want... im new to this jeep/wheeling thing so i got alot to learn about both.

LTb1ow · 08-06-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by transmaro93

im ready for some puddle jumpen but nothing crazy till i put lockers in... and it was my thread so i can get off topic if i want... im new to this jeep/wheeling thing so i got alot to learn about both.

No, you stay on topic Mr.

Tru2Chevy · 08-07-2011, 07:13 PM

I'm down whenever.....I'll bring the stock '92 out to splash a little mud on it. I am free most mornings - early afternoon. Want to try for a Saturday / Sunday morning sometime?

And Brandon, don't worry about the lockers much - you will be surprised at what even a stock cherokee can handle, and even more so after lift and tire upgrade. I've only gotten my 96 stuck once, and that was from trying to go through water I shouldn't have attempted - stalled the engine in the middle of the puddle and flooded the interior

- Justin

transmaro93 · 08-07-2011, 07:26 PM

yea weekends would be better for me. a saturday or sunday works for me. Justin you see the pic i posted? thats deff a 8.25 i have right? im down when ever... i need a few more things but ill take my chances on some terrain that isnt to crazy...

Tru2Chevy · 08-07-2011, 10:40 PM

Yea, that looks like an 8.25 to me.

- Justin

B4C · 08-09-2011, 10:13 PM

That is an 8.25, dont necessacarily need lockers it suprising how well the XJ's do off road. Ive gotten my 90 stuck a bunch of times, push your limits with a group so you know what you can handle when you go out alone.
I would be down for a run thru wharton on a Sunday if you guys want Ill lead.