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12-03-2013, 01:30 PM
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12-04-2013, 02:32 PM
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Did a little researching on the Porsche gt. I've driven a 911 before (never pushed it) but everyone that knows those cars, knows they love to oversteer. Now take a 700hp carerra gt from the same manufacturer and you can bet that's a recipe for disaster. Yes, its a different chassis but I would assume they used very much the same principles from the coveted 911.
Interesting car crash and a lawsuit that emerged. Lawyer made his name in the 90's for successfully suing Porsche on the 911 turbo, citing the car was waaayyy to hard to control for the novice driver. Subsequently, the 911 turbo took a hiatus from the US market and when it returned, Porsche offered driver courses for the buyers....
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/...hes-into-court
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911 and the CGT are two very different cars. One is has engine mounted in the middle and the other has it mounted aft of the rear tires.
A lot of people have come out talking about the car, but anyone who has had any seat time in the car have praised it. Yeah, it's a little froggy, but what car isn't with that much power and such little weight?
911 Turbo cars that you are talking about are the trailing arm type that were notorious for killing Yuppies left and right. They ran into the same issues that made the Corvair of the 60's such a "dangerous" vehicle to drive. Add more power, and there were issues.
Also, the new 918 hybrid-electric supercar that Porsche is making uses the same carbon tub set up as the CGT.
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12-04-2013, 02:57 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
911 and the CGT are two very different cars. One is has engine mounted in the middle and the other has it mounted aft of the rear tires.
A lot of people have come out talking about the car, but anyone who has had any seat time in the car have praised it. Yeah, it's a little froggy, but what car isn't with that much power and such little weight?
911 Turbo cars that you are talking about are the trailing arm type that were notorious for killing Yuppies left and right. They ran into the same issues that made the Corvair of the 60's such a "dangerous" vehicle to drive. Add more power, and there were issues.
Also, the new 918 hybrid-electric supercar that Porsche is making uses the same carbon tub set up as the CGT.
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To further your point about the 911/Corvair and weight distribution, the 70's turbo (930) version was/is also famous for flipping people into the woods due to the insane turbo lag and less forgiving tires. Even the 80's turbos have brutal lag. Nowhere near modern.
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12-04-2013, 04:42 PM
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Too soon?
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12-04-2013, 05:45 PM
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Car just appeared too crazy and given it didn't have Porsche's now mandated traction/stability control made it just an insane car to control (given what I read). There are other mid/rear mounted supercars w/the same hp or greater but none have garner more attention than the c/gt from what I've seen.
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12-05-2013, 09:34 PM
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12-08-2013, 04:42 PM
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/cry ^
I will say I was genuinely bothered by this accident. F&F/PW was def a big part of my life growing up, esp with car scene stuff. Very sad no matter how it happened.
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01-03-2014, 01:53 PM
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I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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01-03-2014, 02:04 PM
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makes sense, but... is this something a coroner had the expertise to say? Shouldn't it come for the investigators? perhaps I'm just not sure of the skills and duties of a coroner.
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01-03-2014, 02:05 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Might be based on body trauma.
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05-13-2014, 06:50 PM
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05-13-2014, 07:14 PM
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that lawsuit is a stain on both mens memory, cant believe a judge will actually hear it.
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