Got into a verbal scuffle with a manager last night...

[SupermanX24]

Originally Posted by UserName

i came into this country through mexico when i was 5 with my mom and my two bros. we didnt want to come here ,we had to for survival . weve been here since 91 and my mom and dad still dont know english. my dad works 2 jobs and my mom took care of us and has tried to learn so many time . just cause some one doesnt know english doesnt mean they dont belong here. i hurts me when some one can be that stupid to say things like that. for those that feel that everyone should know english i say to think back to when ur family came to this country what they had to go through . and if u cant imagine that go on a trip somewhere where they dont even know what english is and try to even be there for 2 days with out going insane

That's 17 years of hearing the English language my friend. My grandmother came to the country in 1982. She had no intent on speaking the language, And If I remember correct, by 1999 she spoke pretty good english just due to the exposure of the language. So for you to say that your parents still don't know english after 17 years, I don't think they are trying too hard. Now I'm not saying they don't belong here or any immigrant shouldn't be here because they don't know the language. As long as they're here LEGALLY, I could care less. And I'm with Justin as far as they shouldn't have a job that directly interacts with people (customers) if they can't speak the language.

[DevilDougWS6]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Not all illegals = Mexicans, and not all Mexicans = illegals. Sounds like you just have a problem with people of Hispanic descent, you racist sack of [insert your own word here].


Noah, you should have went to Fudd's, their Burgers are way better anyway, and they speak English!

alright first of all, you dont know me. ask anyone who KNOWS me and they will tell you i am the most non-racist person in the world. i hate everyone equally for that matter. ignorance and stupidity affects ANYONE of ANY age, race, religion, etc. etc. etc. I would be the first person to admit that EVERYONE is ignorant. except I prefer to educate myself on subjects before talking about them. and also not take other peoples words out of context.

yes, i should have reworded my post a little bit better. but i did state anyone ILLEGALLY in this country. just seems the majority of the problem is with hispanics. i dont know if you watch the news but they seem to really be the only race that everyone is talking about and trying to protect our borders from Mexicans entering our country without consent.

Originally Posted by UserName View Post
i came into this country through mexico when i was 5 with my mom and my two bros. we didnt want to come here ,we had to for survival . weve been here since 91 and my mom and dad still dont know english. my dad works 2 jobs and my mom took care of us and has tried to learn so many time . just cause some one doesnt know english doesnt mean they dont belong here. i hurts me when some one can be that stupid to say things like that. for those that feel that everyone should know english i say to think back to when ur family came to this country what they had to go through . and if u cant imagine that go on a trip somewhere where they dont even know what english is and try to even be there for 2 days with out going insane

when my family came to this country on the mayflower they primarily already knew english. every other immigrant that came to this country learned english, just so they could fit in and have a job. if i was going to another country i would DEFINITELY attempt to learn that regions language. or atleast have a good understanding of it. Im learning arabic right now so i can communicate with locals when I get to Iraq.

Furthermore, when one lumps an entire group of people into one category that's idiotic, to say the least. Ex: All Arabs are terrorists; All blacks are lazy; All Puerto Rican's are thieves.

that, my friend, in case you forgot, is called ignorance and stereotyping. just like people think that because Dubai is in Saudi Arabia that its all sand, and everyone there has guns and wants to kill Americans. if you read some of my posts on ls1tech i talk to Saudi guys all the time with similar interests with their vettes.

[wretched73]

I'm a retail manager and i hate dealing with people who have little understanding of the English language. 99% of the time the people that can't speak a lick of English are very polite and respectful. I do my best to work with them and have no real problem doing so. The transactions usually go through flawlessly and we both go on our separate ways.

I start having a problem when I get a rude customer that attempts to argue with me in a form of terrible English that i just simply can't understand or I can't communicate to them clearly what I'm trying to say. This is where problems start and why i think it is highly useful for everyone to be able to communicate smoothly in English.

[rscamaro73]

My mom came here from Brasil in the mid 60's right after Kennedy was assassinated. She was here as a nanny watching 3 young girls. She got a job....she learned the language. She got married. She was here LEGALLY. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that she actually got the nerve to really prove herself - she became a NATURALIZED CITIZEN (as in earning her citizenship)....and got a drivers license. In that order. Then she started volunteering for YEARS with the C.A.P. in her area (Md). So she's done her part and then some. More than I can say for others. It isn't hard to be here legally. It isn't that hard to learn Engrish. Just get it close to start with. Hell, Sesame Street is teaching our kids SPANISH....so is shows like Dora and Manny the builder (or whatever it is). The 'education' is out there.....we just need to realize that its OUR job to learn. Hell, I spent time in Japan, Korea, Iraq, and Brasil and learned some of the language when I was there. And I have friends that I made from Turkey that wanted me to visit. I'd try to learn some there too. Just open yourself to the experience.

And if you have planned to stay here in the U.S. - please do your 'job' and learn the language....and your best to be legalized.....and to become a 'citizen' as well......plenty of classes for that out there that are cheap.