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Old 09-28-2004, 07:51 PM   #1
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my car WILL be sold, VOTE on my next one!



My parents are pissed about the ticket I got last week. They are gonna sell my car in the next couple months.

Now, I'm kinda upset by this, but at the same time, I see a bright side to it. This car was killing me financially. Full coverage on insurance was murder. And for the level of performance it offered, the price didn't match.

So, i have a plan. This car has given me F-body Fever. I want another f-body as soon as possible. i will probably have to get a winter beater for now, but come spring/summer i want another F-body. I thought about getting either a late 3rd gen L98 or a mid 4th gen LT1. my parents would probably not let me get the LT1, so the 3rd gen may be my savior. It would only have liability insurance on it, to keep the price low.

Now, I have big plans for my hypothetical car. but, most importantly, i have to get it first. I'm torn between the Camaro and Firebird. I love the way the 3rd gen Camaros look, but at the same time I would enjoy being different and getting a 'Bird. What do you guys think?
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:53 PM   #2
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perhaps a mod could sticky this?
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:59 PM   #3
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if it's a third gen or an lt1, it's gotta be a camaro.

1st, 2nd, or ls1, and it's gotta be a bird
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:02 PM   #4
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camaro was the original. the firebird, however large the following, was a rebadge/restyle of the camaro. go for the original.
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:09 PM   #5
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there's good arguments for both cars....

I always loved the way KITT looked in "Knight Rider". an all-black 'bird wouldn't be too bad.
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:11 PM   #6
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if it's a third gen or an lt1, it's gotta be a camaro.

1st, 2nd, or ls1, and it's gotta be a bird
no way...get a bird unless its a 1st gen
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:12 PM   #7
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if you go with a late 3rd gen you gotta consider teh 91-92 birds. the banshee nose years are really cool looking and have a great combo of handling adn power.
you could always look around for a pace car with the 3.8 turbo motor and explain to your rents that it is "just" a V6.

a lot fo it will depend on yoru budget when it is time to shop. 3rd gen birds are noticably more expensive than the camaro's with equal options

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Old 09-28-2004, 08:15 PM   #8
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any 3rd gens will be '89-92. I'm not so sure about the '91-92 firebird front end...it looks good sometimes, but other times it looks like crap.
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:21 PM   #9
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I'm not so sure about the '91-92 firebird front end...it looks good sometimes, but other times it looks like crap.
i agree, i really prefer the look of a hardtop fomula. long low lines and none of the ground effects.

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Old 09-28-2004, 08:23 PM   #10
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i like my t-tops though...i'd be looking for a car with t-tops.
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:30 PM   #11
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i like my t-tops though...i'd be looking for a car with t-tops.
91-92 formy's had t-tops
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i like my t-tops though...i'd be looking for a car with t-tops.
91-92 formy's had t-tops
available. if you got the L98 and WS6 suspension you woudl 99% likely have a hardtop. gm made very few examples of WS6 and L98 with t-tops. everyone i have ever seen was a special order car originally.

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Old 09-28-2004, 08:53 PM   #13
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get what you like, don't go by who votes what.

but i'll put in my 2 cents anyway. keep in mind these are my opinions only, not trying to start any sort of war.

i personally like the thirdgens over the 4th gens in terms of styling and interior space. Of the 4th gen lt1 cars, about the only ones I really like are the camaro SS and the firehawk or Ws6 cars with the ram air hoods. alternately the thirdgen cars, there aren't many i actually dislike.

Drivetrain wise, the LT1 is really not that much of a step up from the L98 either IMO. speed density l98/auto cars that aren't burdened with options can run low 14's bone stock. Stock Lt1/auto 4th gens are probably right around the same place. The lt1/6 speed cars are quicker, which is an advantage over the thirdgens, but the 6 speed swap on a thirdgen is no big deal either, and I'd guess that a t56 l98/SD thirdgen would run with the lt1 cars. I did my iroc like 2 and a half years ago, and I know at least a dozen other people who have done the swap.

Finally, another consideration is that since the last of the lt1 cars are about 8 years old now, either way, you're gonna need to work on the car. Not to mention you'll probably want to mod it as well. The thirdgens are probably cheaper to work on or mod, and certainly easier to work on under the hood.
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Theirs an 85' for sale for cheap too!
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Theirs an 85' for sale for cheap too!
that needs a lot of work....
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Theirs an 85' for sale for cheap too!
that needs a lot of work....


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I know a 89 for sale 8)
that's a 5.0....
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my 86 will be for sale in the spring time and it will also have a fresh paintjob 8)
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my 86 will be for sale in the spring time and it will also have a fresh paintjob 8)
aww...the gay-pride stripe will be gone forever....

If you can drop the coin, get a first gen PLEASE!! Or a early 2nd gen. Enough of the 4th gens.
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:21 AM   #21
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if i do get a 1st or 2nd gen i will not buy a carbed unless it is all original then i wont drive it that much. but we will see maybe i can find a superclean 3rd gen somewhere without a carb
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Come on all my car needs is a working transmission and a good tune. Slap a decent rear end in it, and youll be running mid-low 14's all day long.

Cosmetically its all there, could use 1 new tire, and some winshield wipers. I really would like to see it go to good hands.
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hmmm a 98 v6 for sale
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My GTA may be up for sale shortly...
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