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Old 11-13-2007, 09:10 PM   #1
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What would it take

To make a 383 stroker put out 600 N/A HP. As son as the '94 is drivable I'm building something real nasty for the '86
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:23 PM   #3
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I don't care about street manners...thats what the V6 is for.
I was looking at these parts and I think it would be a sweet combo

Heads DRT-11711143P
Cam LUN-07104LK
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Intake manifold WND-8501
Rockers SUM-G6920B
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Those heads might be a good start, but that is a tiny cam, and you'll want a single plane intake for high RPM horsepower.

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:17 PM   #5
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I'm looking for my peak to be around 5k...
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http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...10002_26178_-1

thats the cam you need

.670/.625 lift at 290/306 adv. duration
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:40 PM   #7
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thats the cam you need

.670/.625 lift at 290/306 adv. duration
I'm not trying to go nuts with the cam...I wanna procharge it at some point
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http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...10002_26178_-1

thats the cam you need

.670/.625 lift at 290/306 adv. duration
i used that cam in a 355 race car w/AFR 227 alloys, jessel 1.5 int 1.55 ext made it .655 exhaust, and 14 / 1 comp it did rev 8500 but made no power over 8000 - 3000 lb car, glide, 5:13 - 9 inch, it does have a very small valve adjustment clearence .006 intake - .012 exhaust cold, no room for any mistakes car ran 10:40 132MPH -- jz
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(What would it take) To make a 383 stroker put out 600 N/A HP. As son as the '94 is drivable I'm building something real nasty for the '86
I'm gonna guess $15k-$25k (or more) to do it right (suspension, trans, etc.).
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thats the cam you need

.670/.625 lift at 290/306 adv. duration


that is going to have one hell of a lobe...
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I'm looking for my peak to be around 5k...
So you want to build a 600 HP N/A small block and only rev it to 5,000 RPM?


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I'm not trying to go nuts with the cam...I wanna procharge it at some point
Then you want to Procharge it without swapping the cam?

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Old 11-14-2007, 06:06 PM   #12
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I want to get the most out of the setup before I run the procharger on it. that way its just getting the carb set up to the amount of boost, instead of pulling the top and front of the motor apart twice I wanna get the internals right the first time
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Oh mannnn i would have SOOOOO much fun here but justin would definately erase all my hard work so i won't even try
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:14 PM   #14
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Oh mannnn i would have SOOOOO much fun here but justin would definately erase all my hard work so i won't even try
haha i could imagine....so then tell me...what cam should I use...say if I decide to keep it N/A
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You are looking at two completely different animals here.

High hp n/a small blocks generally consist of fairly high compression with a good set of heads, a single plane intake, and a cam optimized for the rest of the setup. The only parts of that motor that would go well with a high hp Procharged setup is the heads and the single plane intake. You'd want a different set of pistons to lower compression, as well as a supercharger cam.

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Old 11-14-2007, 06:23 PM   #16
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Glad to see you're learning

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do you know y u want a supercharger - or someting you just read -- 600 HP and a charger to stand up to the kind of beating you might give it, would need at least a big block snout on the front of the crank, and cross bolted STEEL caps, on the block - machine out the cam tunnel to install timkin roller bearings would not hurt, y not do a stout 383 carb solid cam ???????????? much cheaper -- jz
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It will take One Million Dollars... Are you going to put a T56 behind it too?

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You are looking at two completely different animals here.

High hp n/a small blocks generally consist of fairly high compression with a good set of heads, a single plane intake, and a cam optimized for the rest of the setup. The only parts of that motor that would go well with a high hp Procharged setup is the heads and the single plane intake. You'd want a different set of pistons to lower compression, as well as a supercharger cam.

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that set up I picked is 11.1:1 comp the manifold is supposed to be good till 6700 rpm. I want my torque and hp to be at a low enough rpm that I can have it be a monster off the line but it still needs to be high enough that it'll carry till the shift. I'll probably gonna shift at around 6500. And no I'm not going to use a T-56, I'll probably get a TK0600 for it.
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Are you the owner of a Fortune 500 company that we didn't know about? Or rob a bank?

I'm sorry posts like these kill me when people complain about lack of money and say they are going to do this & that. Let me tell you my BUILT motor & front suspension cost just as much my car when I purchased it 3 years ago and I didn't get it cheap either. Building high HP motors is never cost effective. It never works out like it does on paper. Dreams are alright but putting plans in motion where money is a huge factor are pointless. You need MONEY before you commit to anything. And buying used only costs more money in the long run.
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Stop!

why build a motor for N/A when you are just going to slap a super charger on it? NO NO NO!

Before you touch anything or order parts You need to find some one to build this motor for you and to set up a combo, a 383 for 600hp n/a is going to require perfectly matched parts and probably alot of compression, and compression is not going to be good for a super charger... Jesus, just drive the damn car, and suck it up and bring it to josh, Hes the man!


edit

after reading through, the post, everyone already said what I said, but I didn't erase it, maybe you'll gain your senses hearing it come from my dumb *** mouth...
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that set up I picked is 11.1:1 comp the manifold is supposed to be good till 6700 rpm. I want my torque and hp to be at a low enough rpm that I can have it be a monster off the line but it still needs to be high enough that it'll carry till the shift. I'll probably gonna shift at around 6500. And no I'm not going to use a T-56, I'll probably get a TK0600 for it.
Are you planning on using this primarily as a drag car?

You sound like you want it to do everything, and usually that just doesn't happen. Motors that make big HP numbers above 6,000 RPM generally don't make huge torque numbers below 2,000 RPM.

You can build a good motor with lots of low and midrange power, or you can build a good motor with lots of midrange and high rpm power, but you sound like you want something that will be an absolute screamer from 1,500 RPM to 6,500 RPM, and that just doesn't work.

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Stop!

Before you touch anything or order parts You need to find some one to build this motor for you and to set up a combo,
Heh....you sound like all of us. I guess you have heard that speech a few times now, huh?

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