View Poll Results: Which converter?
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Fuddle: 3600 Stall, 2.2STR
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TCI: 3000-3500 Stall 2.2STR
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Vgilante: 3600 Stall, 2.1STR
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Yank: 3600 Stall, 2.5 STR
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01-10-2008, 03:26 PM
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Opinions on a new converter
OK guys, I am working on getting a new converter for mny car and have narrowed it down to 4 good options. Car info is listed below, let me know what you think.
346 CI, 11.5:1 C/R
Cam:228/230 .588/.591 114LSA
Trans: 4l60E
rear: 12 bolt, 4.10's
Race weight: 3875
Looking for a good hard launch but not going all out, car is still mainly a street car.
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01-10-2008, 05:12 PM
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i m a dealer with TSR in NH http://www.tsr-racing.com/ if you want to call them Carl the owner or his son Cris < who knows me as ( joey bag of donuts ) < its a funny and long story if you get him -- but they will make you a converter for your combo < not cheap but high quality -- Carl is the author of two racing transmission bibles the powerglide and the torque flight, every trans shop on the planet uses his racing tricks for their builds -- PM me if you like -- jz
Last edited by johnjzjz; 01-10-2008 at 05:14 PM.
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01-10-2008, 07:49 PM
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I'll let ya know, money is an issue, probably only gonna have about $700.00
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01-10-2008, 09:02 PM
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Fuddle, definately worth it. also they'll reflash easily too.
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01-13-2008, 06:17 PM
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I say the Fuddle or Yank....I've heard plenty of good stories about both.
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01-13-2008, 09:27 PM
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I've had 2 yank converters.... 3200 and 4200... and VERY satisfied..... but expensive
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01-13-2008, 10:41 PM
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why such low stall speeds? with a cam and such a heavy car you will certainly get much more out of it with a 4k or bit higher stall speed.
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01-14-2008, 10:33 AM
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maybe the cams LSA is a very low number like 99 / 100 on the intake side that being the case it would pull real hard with a tight converter down low - giving up high engine speed for torque -- jz
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01-14-2008, 06:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjzjz
maybe the cams LSA is a very low number like 99 / 100 on the intake side that being the case it would pull real hard with a tight converter down low - giving up high engine speed for torque -- jz
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Cam: 228/230 .588/.591 114LSA
- Justin
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01-14-2008, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Cam: 228/230 .588/.591 114LSA
- Justin
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( 114 ) - thats a combined LSA the intake and the exhaust added together than divided by two give the advertised # -- the intake is always a lower # than the exhaust and as you well know when you change the cam timing you can move them of coarse together -- this is the reason i am having a difficult time getting a tech write up their are so many variables to explain in layman's terms so a clear understanding can be derived from a write up with out loosing all who reads it - it does not confuse me but i do this my guess on that cam its a 110 intake & 118 exhaust = 114 LSA their are two methods for decreeing a cam one uses a start point off the base circle < well known - the second is center line method off the max lift point of the cam < and i am about 1/4 of the way their that is if you think the site wants it ????? - jz
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01-14-2008, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjzjz
( 114 ) - thats a combined LSA the intake and the exhaust added together than divided by two give the advertised # -- the intake is always a lower # than the exhaust and as you well know when you change the cam timing you can move them of coarse together -- this is the reason i am having a difficult time getting a tech write up their are so many variables to explain in layman's terms so a clear understanding can be derived from a write up with out loosing all who reads it - it does not confuse me but i do this my guess on that cam its a 110 intake & 118 exhaust = 114 LSA their are two methods for decreeing a cam one uses a start point off the base circle < well known - the second is center line method off the max lift point of the cam < and i am about 1/4 of the way their that is if you think the site wants it ????? - jz
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Gotcha, I didn't notice that you specified intake LSA in your post. I thought you just overlooked the specs he had in the first post.
And we would love a write up from someone with your knowledge!
- Justin
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01-17-2008, 11:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
why such low stall speeds? with a cam and such a heavy car you will certainly get much more out of it with a 4k or bit higher stall speed.
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Street car that sees track duty, with gas pulling close to $4.00 a gallon up here every MPG counts to me.
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01-18-2008, 07:47 AM
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I never heard anything bad about Yank.
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03-14-2008, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Street car that sees track duty, with gas pulling close to $4.00 a gallon up here every MPG counts to me.
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spend the 700 on a beater that gets 25+ mpg and your insurance will go down some as well, since that would be your primary car. then, with the money you save on gas and car insurance, go all out on the stall! 4400 stall!!
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03-15-2008, 08:14 AM
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you know my choice, Vigilante of course! Just stay away from Fuddle garbage every one I have installed feels like crap - not efficient at all - Looks like a repainted B&M grenade to me.
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03-16-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 98tadriver
spend the 700 on a beater that gets 25+ mpg and your insurance will go down some as well, since that would be your primary car. then, with the money you save on gas and car insurance, go all out on the stall! 4400 stall!!
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it isn't my daily driver, just want some more efficiency then high RPM launches.
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9/11/01- Never Forget
2002 Pontiac Trans-Am WS6 # 206
Chasing 10's
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11.05 @ 123
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03-16-2008, 11:48 AM
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My vote goes to Vigilante have had 2 different stalls from them in my current car and no problems ever, along with the other people that I know that use them on their LS cars..
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