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07-18-2008, 09:30 PM
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Kinda heavy.
I wonder if a full optioned one will knock on 4,000 lbs?
Or what about the drop top?
Then the challenger wouldn't seem so heavy huh?
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yea convertible should add some good weight, and is that weight measured for the V6 or V8? Two more cylinders, an auto trans, some big 21s or 22s, and all the body molding should be a good bit more than the base V6.
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07-18-2008, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 12secondv6
Kinda heavy.
I wonder if a full optioned one will knock on 4,000 lbs?
Or what about the drop top?
Then the challenger wouldn't seem so heavy huh?
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Considering the weight of cars these days, 3750 is not too bad.
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07-18-2008, 10:22 PM
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"but the Camaro is a porker, weighing in at more than 1,700kgs."
Im guessing the weight was measured on a bare bones V6. Looks like the Camaro and the Challenger will be about the same weight after all.
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07-18-2008, 10:23 PM
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Yeah jeeze. It dont seem to be too much lighter than a Challenger. Still a tank vs a 4th gen or vette.
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07-18-2008, 10:26 PM
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I thought the challenger was well over 4200 lbs?
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
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07-18-2008, 10:31 PM
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I thought the challenger was well over 4200 lbs?
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V6 is 3800, SRT8 is 4140.
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07-18-2008, 10:35 PM
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oh, and Saleen announced that they're going to make Saleen Challengers starting in 2009. Two versions, a supercharged 5.7 hemi, the 570TM making 500hp, and the 570XTM, making over 700hp
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07-18-2008, 10:48 PM
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oh, and Saleen announced that they're going to make Saleen Challengers starting in 2009. Two versions, a supercharged 5.7 hemi, the 570TM making 500hp, and the 570XTM, making over 700hp
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07-19-2008, 12:32 AM
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SS will get the 6.2, the Z28 will get the supercharged one.
Z28 is still on. It has not been canceled. All info saying so is false and should be removed.
Red...ohhhhhhhhhhh I just came
3700lbs V8 car making as much power as teh 4200lb SRT8 for THOUSANDS (ten or more) less.
**** you Challenger, **** you inthe mouth.
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07-19-2008, 12:44 AM
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3700lb rating is for the SS, not the V6.
V6 will be 100lbs or so less.
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07-19-2008, 07:38 AM
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SS will get the 6.2, the Z28 will get the supercharged one.
Z28 is still on. It has not been canceled. All info saying so is false and should be removed.
Red...ohhhhhhhhhhh I just came
3700lbs V8 car making as much power as teh 4200lb SRT8 for THOUSANDS (ten or more) less.
**** you Challenger, **** you inthe mouth.
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I highly doubt the SS will be ten thousand less than the SRT8, especially considering dealer markup.
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07-19-2008, 07:40 AM
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Raise your hand if you can tell me which one is the concept, which one is the production car?
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07-19-2008, 07:41 AM
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"# The curb weight for the V6 Camaro is around 3,700lbs.
# The curb weight for the SS is 3,900lbs."
not much difference to the Challenger. ~100 pounds for the V6 and ~200 for the SS to SRT8.
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07-19-2008, 07:42 AM
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I highly doubt the SS will be ten thousand less than the SRT8, especially considering dealer markup.
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SS will be the "base" V8 model, starting at or around 30k.
Z28 will be the top model, priced somewhere around GT500/SRT8 numbers.
Even if you optioned up the SS, it would probably still end up being several thousand dollars less.
God this car is Amazing. I am going to have to go into some serious debt come First quarter 09.
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07-19-2008, 07:42 AM
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Raise your hand if you can tell me which one is the concept, which one is the production car?
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concept is top with the silly mirrors and air inlet over the nose
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07-19-2008, 07:43 AM
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SS will be the "base" V8 model, starting at or around 30k.
Z28 will be the top model, priced somewhere around GT500/SRT8 numbers.
Even if you optioned up the SS, it would probably still end up being several thousand dollars less.
God this car is Amazing. I am going to have to go into some serious debt come First quarter 09.
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GT500 is a lot more than an SRT8. SRT8 is 41k, GT500 is 54k.
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07-19-2008, 07:55 AM
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I didnt think that the GT500 was up that high. I thought it was mid 40's starting, with teh vert going into 50k land.
the Z28 will be the car to have. If rumors are right (and that info I posted confrims), the Camaro will get the same selective magnetic adjustable suspension that is in the ZR1, CTS-V, as well as similar variants in cars such as the Ferrari 599 GTB, Audi TT, and several other vehicles. This system can turn the shocks from soft riding civilian driver one min, to super road track ready the next.
I hope that Z28's price is kept down, but that car has the potential to be a potent car, and I think that Camaro Z28 will easily outdo the Challenger SRT8 and GT500 in every single performance test by a good margin
I think that once the SS shows up in car rags, and tests against the SRT8, it will read much like the current G8 GT vs Charger RT reading.
Im really really gunna need a new job...soon.
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07-19-2008, 12:39 PM
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the car looks good, but that radio and shifter have to die.
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07-19-2008, 01:01 PM
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what are the msrp's suppose to be?
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07-19-2008, 03:22 PM
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concept is top with the silly mirrors and air inlet over the nose
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you forgot the RS badge...
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07-20-2008, 11:41 AM
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3.6di is gonna smack some bitches up
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07-20-2008, 07:01 PM
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3.6di is gonna smack some bitches up
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mainly mustang GT's
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mainly mustang GT's
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I weighed my Z today. Its 3300 lbs without the spare and a near empty tank, other than that no weight reduction. Seems like a pretty big jump in weight to go up to the 2 ton mark.
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