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01-17-2012, 04:59 PM
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Thnking about a cam
I'm thinking about doing a cam in the mean time while I save up for my actual heads and cam combo just for the hell of it I had the MS4 and T-Rex in mind. Opinions?
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01-17-2012, 05:20 PM
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What are your goals? DD? street car? track only? Trex is a track cam hands down..
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01-17-2012, 05:29 PM
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just goin out on a limb justing by the T-rex and MS4 mentions... you heard them and want your car to sound like that ?
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01-17-2012, 05:54 PM
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T Rex T Rex T Rex
That cam can also use on the street it's a good cam makes a lot of power dismay she got the clearances for it 
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01-17-2012, 07:48 PM
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I went with a torquer V.2 with LS6 heads and made just over 400rwhp/380rwtq through a 6spd and 9in. The car runs like it's stock, but to me it lost it's fun to drive factor.
I'd really make sure that you want to do a cam before you make the purchase. Also, if the car is a DD, I'd suggest not to do it. The time it takes to go from 0 to jail time is far too short. If I could, I probably would go back to just bolt-ons and the car would be more enjoyable to me.
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01-17-2012, 07:54 PM
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Not being mean, but why would you purchase and install a cam now, along with tuning and supporting mods .... so you can get a new one with heads and do it again?
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01-17-2012, 09:09 PM
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Yes I want my car to sound like that, the car is a daily but i could care less. I know it sounds stupid but if I can get a cam (most likely not the 2 I mentioned) that requires no valvetrain, I have no problem redoing the whole thing because my heads and cam that im ultimately going with are a good amount of time down the road. This whole idea popped into my head today put of nowhere so its by no means a definite.
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01-17-2012, 09:19 PM
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t-rex is not very street friendly i have done a few... a MS3 is alot better but doesn't make the power the trex does
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Last edited by 1984camaroz28; 01-17-2012 at 09:20 PM.
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01-18-2012, 12:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
t-rex is not very street friendly i have done a few... a MS3 is alot better but doesn't make the power the trex does
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The question now is can i get away with doing JUST the cam
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R.I.P 1998 Z28 vert. - A4 - SLP LM1 - GM 3.73 - Hooker Longtubes - ORY - BMR Swaybars LCA's Panhard Bar Torque Arm (167,194 mi.)
1998 Z28 Fixed Roof Liftback?? - M6 - Hooker Longtubes - SLP Cats- SLP Ram Air - 3.73 - Rockland Standard Gear Transzilla T56 - Walboro 255 - BMR Swaybars LCA's Panhard Bar Torque Arm Lowering Springs - UMI 3 Point Subframe Connectors - P1SC H/C coming soon
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01-18-2012, 04:26 AM
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01-18-2012, 09:46 AM
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With a new cam you'll at least need new springs. If you want a choppy idle for now, get yourself a hotcam or ASA cam and pickup a set of LS6 springs (can find takeoffs for $50~$80). You'll have the sound your looking for and driveability won't suffer. Just my $.02
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01-18-2012, 02:31 PM
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when i did my MS3, i did new valve springs for its size as well as new retainers and hardened pushrods. I also put in a ported oil pump. It only makes sense since you're already in there. Trying to save a buck just hurts in the long run.
also keep in mind that more power means more stress on those weak '98 rod bolts, and high rpms can blow apart the needle bearing in the stock rockers... goal for more power means more things to address.
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01-18-2012, 06:13 PM
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I would NEVER do a camshaft without doing pushrods, oil pump and timing chain...
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01-18-2012, 10:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Torque
I would NEVER do a camshaft without doing pushrods, oil pump and timing chain...
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+1. and springs, etc. save up, do it right the 1st time.
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01-28-2012, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
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I would NEVER do a camshaft without doing push rods, oil pump and timing chain...
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Push rods are a must , timing chain on smaller cams stock is fine , oil pump i recommend on any cam swap ,
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