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03-27-2013, 06:37 PM
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I don't think you're crazy. I'm sure the purpose of this car is bi-fold, a limited edition car and an answer to the Boss LS. Just speculating, but I would imagine the reason they went with the LS7 over the LS3 had more to do with the those two reasons than price gouging--A 427ci 7.0L sounds better to the ear (and on paper) than a 402ci 6.2L.
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Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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03-27-2013, 06:43 PM
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Not to mention that they already have the LS7s being made, as opposed to modding an LS3 further to get the desired power levels they were looking for.
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03-27-2013, 08:16 PM
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Dry sump for race cars
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-27-2013, 08:58 PM
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I love the way the car looks. Not crazy about the new styling (mainly the hood) on the SS cars but it all fits great on the Z28. My dad was there for the release today and was able to snag a second row seat. He said the car looks great in person and is very comfortable to sit in for being so "stripped down."
Full album here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...5620875&type=3
On a GM related side note, my dad sat next to Tadge Juechter, the chief design engineer for Corvette, at the release. They were talking about the C7 and my dad being himself, tried to get as much unknown info out of him as he could. Tadge pretty much kept quiet but hinted at something pretty interesting. My dad said to him, since all of the names from the old days are coming back, is there a chance that we might see an "L88" Corvette in the future? Tadge didn't answer the question, but looked at him and smiled ear to ear.
Now he didn't say yes, but a response like that makes me think that that name might be making a return in the not so distant future. Just something to think about...
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03-27-2013, 09:09 PM
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Is the headlight bar area more narrow than the previous years?
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03-27-2013, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PolarBear
Is the headlight bar area more narrow than the previous years?
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Yeah it has that new body line narrowing it down
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-28-2013, 12:47 AM
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What No T-tops
Its a nice car, I like most changes but the chin spoiler has gots to go...
the rest is all blah blah blah to me anyone with a wad of cash can go buy performance these days I miss the days of old when you had to earn it by working on your own car.
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03-28-2013, 01:32 AM
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anyone know the price tag on it?
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03-28-2013, 02:04 AM
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anyone know the price tag on it?
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probably MSRP around like 45 with dealers marking them up to 50-55k
i did notice that headlight bar was trimmer im gonna play around with this in photo shop but good god mike and billy called it on the head...whats up with the honda tails.
edit: just read on GMI that this car is gonna be the top of the line camaro? but with the zl1 being around 60k, theres no way i can see anyone buying a camaro for more than that. if someones gonna spend 60k on a gm car with ugly tails then you might as well go with a base vette
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03-28-2013, 10:13 AM
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I like it. I think the tail lights look great. They harken back to 69 tail lights. Not bad, not bad at all.
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03-28-2013, 10:15 AM
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I like it but wish it was more like the 92 or older Z's and the taillights are ugly But overall A-.
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03-28-2013, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike
Soo. Late 90s integra taillights. Looks like the back of a Honda prelude
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To me the tail lights are reminiscent of the 74-77
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I like it. I think the tail lights look great. They harken back to 69 tail lights. Not bad, not bad at all.
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this amuses me. but now that I look I understand the prelude and 69 comments. not the 74-77, and bear is not the only person to mention that online.
in any event 2014>2010-2013 tail. now go fix the new malibu taillights
2014 Z28
2001 prelude:
74-77 Camaro
69 Camaro
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03-28-2013, 10:52 AM
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Def better than 5th gen tail lights. The leds will look sick like the chrysler tails.
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03-28-2013, 11:13 AM
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The whole ass looks prelude. The trunk dipping below the lights. The lights themselves are Acura integra
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-28-2013, 11:40 AM
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03-28-2013, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
74-77 Camaro
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OK, now that I look at it again, I take it back, definitely not 74-77
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The whole ass looks prelude. The trunk dipping below the lights. The lights themselves are Acura integra
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Definitely not integra, much less the whole rear end.
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OK, I see for sure now the wraparound threw me a little. If they were taller on the new one I would say 3rd gen
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03-28-2013, 05:30 PM
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I like it better if you get rid of the chevy sign and black out in between. flows and separates the back end more
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03-28-2013, 05:51 PM
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Its everything NJFBOA wants in a camaro, yet no one will buy it /gmbot
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I'd buy one if I had the cheddar. I wish it was completely redesigned and smaller but my main concern with the camarao was how heavy the pig was.
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03-28-2013, 06:00 PM
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I see a Challenger:
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
I like it better if you get rid of the chevy sign and black out in between. flows and separates the back end more
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1995 Firebird... Stock-ish.
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Originally Posted by LS1ow
Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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03-28-2013, 06:01 PM
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Man that spoiler on the Z28 really looks similar to the one on my old G6 GXP...
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03-28-2013, 06:17 PM
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I really don't get the hood, it looks like crap
minus that the z/28 looks good
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03-28-2013, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BurninrubberGT
I really don't get the hood, it looks like crap
minus that the z/28 looks good
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Wonder how long before someone cuts the window open and sticks a maggie through there
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1995 Firebird... Stock-ish.
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Originally Posted by LS1ow
Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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03-28-2013, 08:12 PM
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I'm kind of disappointed honestly. ZL1 should of gotten the 427, z28 should of gotten an aluminum-based 4.8 enlarged to 5.0. Tooling is already there for a cast iron 4.8. Other then that, I can dig the rest of it with the A/C delete,optional radio.....yet should of been for the 1LE.....
To me, they're entangling all the trademark notes from models into one another.
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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03-28-2013, 08:14 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Originally Posted by coolmanvette75
I love the way the car looks. Not crazy about the new styling (mainly the hood) on the SS cars but it all fits great on the Z28. My dad was there for the release today and was able to snag a second row seat. He said the car looks great in person and is very comfortable to sit in for being so "stripped down."
On a GM related side note, my dad sat next to Tadge Juechter, the chief design engineer for Corvette, at the release. They were talking about the C7 and my dad being himself, tried to get as much unknown info out of him as he could. Tadge pretty much kept quiet but hinted at something pretty interesting. My dad said to him, since all of the names from the old days are coming back, is there a chance that we might see an "L88" Corvette in the future? Tadge didn't answer the question, but looked at him and smiled ear to ear.
Now he didn't say yes, but a response like that makes me think that that name might be making a return in the not so distant future. Just something to think about...
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There is no L88 coming, but there will be a 600 and a 700+ hp engine for C7; LT4 and LT5. Tadge is a good dude, very cool guy to talk to, and he loves enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by PolarBear
Is the headlight bar area more narrow than the previous years?
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2014 gets an update front and rear. Smaller upper grill, much larger lower grill. It's a bottom breather like the C7. This helps with the aero, and the vents in the hood release the pressure to keep the nose down.
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60k-70k. Z06 will move up to 80ish. Z/28 is the top level car.
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
probably MSRP around like 45 with dealers marking them up to 50-55k
i did notice that headlight bar was trimmer im gonna play around with this in photo shop but good god mike and billy called it on the head...whats up with the honda tails.
edit: just read on GMI that this car is gonna be the top of the line camaro? but with the zl1 being around 60k, theres no way i can see anyone buying a camaro for more than that. if someones gonna spend 60k on a gm car with ugly tails then you might as well go with a base vette
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People are buying 65k ZL1s. A C7 Z51 will top out right along side this.
YOU wouldn't buy it, but YOU wouldn't buy any car.
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I really don't get the hood, it looks like crap
minus that the z/28 looks good
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Hood design is based off the ZL1's aero studies. It's functional. I wish it was larger. It looks too small for such a large hood.
ZL1 is a Grand Touring car, complete with adaptive suspension, lots of nice standard features, etc etc. Z/28 is a dedicated track car.
Could GM have just done a lighter SS? Sure. Could they have just done a slightly tuned up 1LE? Yeah.
This is the car that everyone said that GM would never make. A stripped down, light weight, big cube, manual trans only, optional AC. no fancy radio stuff, manual race seats, with carbon ceramic brakes, spec-suspension and race tires.
It's six seconds faster around GM's Milford Proving Grounds than the Mustang GT500.
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03-28-2013, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
I'm kind of disappointed honestly. ZL1 should of gotten the 427, z28 should of gotten an aluminum-based 4.8 enlarged to 5.0. Tooling is already there for a cast iron 4.8. Other then that, I can dig the rest of it with the A/C delete,optional radio.....yet should of been for the 1LE.....
To me, they're entangling all the trademark notes from models into one another.
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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