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03-23-2009, 10:30 PM
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take your belts off
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03-24-2009, 09:19 AM
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That would be bad, you need your alternator spinning to power all those coils you guys get.
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03-24-2009, 09:53 AM
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If your battery is not a POS, and you have an ewp, you should be able to make a run without the belts.
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03-24-2009, 10:02 AM
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I would not advise it. Seriously.
And of course you would be essentially running a manual rack which would suck with big ass tires...
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-24-2009, 10:36 AM
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no, actually itd be worse than running a manual rack. ive driven with a manual rack, and then mine. it kinda sucks when your trying to turn. with skinnies its not too bad. when im racing, im going straight. the shortbelt mod is something you could do right at the track. drive to the track with powersteering, swap belts, drive home with powersteering
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03-24-2009, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
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If your battery is not a POS, and you have an ewp, you should be able to make a run without the belts.
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make a few passes, then we'll try
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1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
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03-26-2009, 08:46 PM
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no belt runnin alternator? coils, fuel pump(s), ECM ... think about it.
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03-26-2009, 09:11 PM
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The battery holds plenty of juice to get a pass in without any problems and get back to the lanes.
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03-27-2009, 05:23 AM
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I plan on running a shorter belt to buy pass the power steering at the track. Ron what was that part # again? It was 6rib 51" or 52"?
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03-27-2009, 09:29 PM
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A PASS. race day usually is 6 or more passes to goto finals. safer bet is 2 bypass power steering as u stated...good luck hope u reach the goal u want
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03-27-2009, 11:46 PM
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Quote:
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A PASS. race day usually is 6 or more passes to goto finals. safer bet is 2 bypass power steering as u stated...good luck hope u reach the goal u want
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yeah thats why they make chargers........
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03-28-2009, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
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A PASS. race day usually is 6 or more passes to goto finals. safer bet is 2 bypass power steering as u stated...good luck hope u reach the goal u want
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Take belt off, make pass, roll back around to pits, put belt on, drive to lanes, idle car for 5 minutes, pull belt off and make next pass.
I have seen guys do it. With a little bit of practice it turns into a pretty quick procedure.
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03-28-2009, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
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I plan on running a shorter belt to buy pass the power steering at the track. Ron what was that part # again? It was 6rib 51" or 52"?
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if you have a 25% underdrive pulley for your crank its a 51" 6rib itll ssay something like 51k6
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Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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03-28-2009, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
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Take belt off, make pass, roll back around to pits, put belt on, drive to lanes, idle car for 5 minutes, pull belt off and make next pass.
I have seen guys do it. With a little bit of practice it turns into a pretty quick procedure.
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and get burned while hes in the process lol. or make a switch to cut the altenator out for your pass, then flip it back on when ur done. i definately wouldnt recommend running beltless, especially with no ewp
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2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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03-28-2009, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
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if you have a 25% underdrive pulley for your crank its a 51" 6rib itll ssay something like 51k6
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hmm...I guess I'll have to try a few belts then since I have the stock pulley. It's probably something like 53-54 inches then.
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03-28-2009, 06:15 PM
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Quote:
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hmm...I guess I'll have to try a few belts then since I have the stock pulley. It's probably something like 53-54 inches then.
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there was a thing on LS1tech about it. i believe its 52" for stock pulley. but why not buy an underdrive pulley and drop another tenth!
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2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
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03-28-2009, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
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there was a thing on LS1tech about it. i believe its 52" for stock pulley. but why not buy an underdrive pulley and drop another tenth!
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Well I've heard mixed reviews about the pulley. I've heard some people have gained almost nothing with it.
Anyway- The tick master cylinder is installed. I just need to adjust the peddle and bleed the system....can't wait to do that(sarcasm).
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03-29-2009, 01:07 AM
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The underdrive did gain about 2 mph for me.
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03-29-2009, 01:10 AM
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Quote:
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The underdrive did gain about 2 mph for me.
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was that when u had just bolt-ons?
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03-29-2009, 01:34 PM
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Update:
Just took the car for a spin with the master and skinnies...all I can say is . The front end lifts nicely and the trans feels nice and tight(I like it notchy) . I still have to put all of the dash panels back in and get arp studs so I can safely drive on skinnies, but so far so good. My knee is feeling good today... ..the camaro will be back on the road for good soon.
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03-29-2009, 03:44 PM
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leave the dash apart and get studs. go make fast pass.
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03-29-2009, 08:26 PM
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kewl. what shifter do u have? the trans shouldnt feel notchy with a stock shifter lol
and the UD pulley results will vary based on peoples runs.
lets say they had a crappy run without it, then made a good pass with the ud pulley. theyre gonna gain whatever the pulley gets you, plus whatever they gained from a better 60' just get it. i found a SFI approved one on ebay a while back, 129 bucks i think. works great
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2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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03-29-2009, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
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kewl. what shifter do u have? the trans shouldnt feel notchy with a stock shifter lol
and the UD pulley results will vary based on peoples runs.
lets say they had a crappy run without it, then made a good pass with the ud pulley. theyre gonna gain whatever the pulley gets you, plus whatever they gained from a better 60' just get it. i found a SFI approved one on ebay a while back, 129 bucks i think. works great
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I have a hurst billet pro. Since I've installed the shifter my trans has always felt notchy. It probably has to do with the miles on the trans...I like the feel of a notchy trans because I like to know that I've "hit" the gear I want. I'll have to check into the underdrive pulley for $129..I don't know if I'd want to go cheap on that part since it is connected to the crankshaft.
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03-29-2009, 09:17 PM
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was that when u had just bolt-ons?
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yes... headers, ls6, lid, catback
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03-29-2009, 09:42 PM
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Quote:
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I have a hurst billet pro. Since I've installed the shifter my trans has always felt notchy. It probably has to do with the miles on the trans...I like the feel of a notchy trans because I like to know that I've "hit" the gear I want. I'll have to check into the underdrive pulley for $129..I don't know if I'd want to go cheap on that part since it is connected to the crankshaft.
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I just hold one pedal, push the other and then release the first pedal... easy as cake. Whats this hitting of gears you speak of?
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