Hint on what upgrade is going to happen

[Slow Z]

Originally Posted by Koll

I know that intake is for a high RPM range. And that Ill have no throttle responce. And that Im gona dump a lot of fuel in there.


But ill look cool.

Tell me you're joking right?

[Fasterthanyou]

Originally Posted by Koll

Errrm....thoes are 2 750 Double Pumpers on there right now.

Yeah, that's just stupid. A classic example of overcarbing a motor and then complaining about the tuning nightmare.

[Fasterthanyou]

Originally Posted by skorpion317

BAD idea...

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles..._kn/index.html

pretty interesting write up of how running without an air cleaner can actually lose HP compared to using the right combination of parts. Bottom line, use the tallest air filter you can find with the flattest base. this will help direct air into the carb without a whole lot of turbulence.

"Our test big-block actually recorded slightly rich air-fuel ratio mixtures at peak power with just the bare carburetor. Once we added the Flow Control and other air cleaner assemblies, the additional airflow slightly leaned the air-fuel ratio by roughly a quarter of a ratio. This probably improved the power slightly, although earlier jet changes of more than half a ratio did not improve the power output more than a couple of horsepower." From the link you just sent me.

That basically tells me they are selling out to K&N. ****ers didn't even tune the no-air cleaner assembly. Instead, they said the just carb setup was richer than the other tests that they tuned properly using the correct jets to make peak power, lol, what a sell out. I'd like to piss in their gas tanks for insulting my intelligence and clouding the whole issue of running an air cleaner. The only good thing is that they did post that disclaimer for guys like me to prevent the majority from going and buying a K&N.

Running an open carb is obviously a bad idea but it's an old school look. It says, "This engine eat's small children and pets when you're not looking." Again, not a street car but man is it cool to see it on the street from time to time. Let's hope the ricers think it's cool and destroy their engines in the process. Remember, making 400hp with a big v8 and some dust doesn't do NEARLY as much damage as a 400hp small cubes inline 4 or turbo .

p.s.- The fastest turbo cars don't run air cleaners, explain that. :P

[GP99GT]

[skorpion317]

Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou

"Our test big-block actually recorded slightly rich air-fuel ratio mixtures at peak power with just the bare carburetor. Once we added the Flow Control and other air cleaner assemblies, the additional airflow slightly leaned the air-fuel ratio by roughly a quarter of a ratio. This probably improved the power slightly, although earlier jet changes of more than half a ratio did not improve the power output more than a couple of horsepower." From the link you just sent me.

That basically tells me they are selling out to K&N. ****ers didn't even tune the no-air cleaner assembly. Instead, they said the just carb setup was richer than the other tests that they tuned properly using the correct jets to make peak power, lol, what a sell out. I'd like to piss in their gas tanks for insulting my intelligence and clouding the whole issue of running an air cleaner. The only good thing is that they did post that disclaimer for guys like me to prevent the majority from going and buying a K&N.

Running an open carb is obviously a bad idea but it's an old school look. It says, "This engine eat's small children and pets when you're not looking." Again, not a street car but man is it cool to see it on the street from time to time. Let's hope the ricers think it's cool and destroy their engines in the process. Remember, making 400hp with a big v8 and some dust doesn't do NEARLY as much damage as a 400hp small cubes inline 4 or turbo .

p.s.- The fastest turbo cars don't run air cleaners, explain that. :P

the fastest turbo cars aren't street cars race tracks are pretty clean.

[Fasterthanyou]

You got me there . But you're assuming Koll's ride will be a street car. As of right now isn't it doing a lot of sitting around like my poor camaro?

[Slow Z]

I've seen cars run faster with air cleaners than without. An carb without an air cleaner can get a lot of turbulance around it. If your car runs worse with one installed its because its either too small or old and dirty ...Theres really NO reason not to run one