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11-06-2005, 10:39 AM
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the transparent aluminum is not legit so i have heard.
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11-06-2005, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
the transparent aluminum is not legit so i have heard.
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why not?
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11-06-2005, 01:10 PM
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well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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11-06-2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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but its still strong, or at least they say it is
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11-06-2005, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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Would you like some fries with your ketchup?
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11-06-2005, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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Would you like some fries with your ketchup?
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wtf?  and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?
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11-06-2005, 05:26 PM
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well..IMO...those rims ain't spinnin'...therefore, they ain't sh#t!!!!!
call me when they make clear spinnas!!!
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11-06-2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Brando56894
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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Would you like some fries with your ketchup? Â*
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wtf? Â*  and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?
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if you hit anything hard enough it will shatter/crack/dent.
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11-06-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
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Originally Posted by Brando56894
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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Would you like some fries with your ketchup?
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.
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wtf?  and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?
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if you hit anything hard enough it will shatter/crack/dent.
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11-06-2005, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
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Originally Posted by Brando56894
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.
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Would you like some fries with your ketchup?
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.
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wtf?  and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?
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if you hit anything hard enough it will shatter/crack/dent.
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I think what he ment is "If you hit glass, it shatters, if you hit metal it dents. Which will this do?"
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11-06-2005, 06:20 PM
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if its the transparent aluminum, it should dent (assuming of course that the stuff on the website is real). If its just glass with aluminum in it, I would think that it would crack. dont quote me though cause I really dont know anything about metallurgy or the composition of glass and aluminum.
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11-06-2005, 06:22 PM
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well so what if it shatters? im pretty sure CF shatters too but you dont see too many people complain about it.
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11-06-2005, 07:20 PM
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Ummm, weird?
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11-06-2005, 07:58 PM
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Hot Liz, Cold Beer
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if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. but i don't think it's really legit. I would assume those wheels are made out of some other material, like maybe a composition of lexan and other sorts, there are other acrylics and plastics that are rather strong.
don't trust everything you find on the interweb.
as for cracking and shattering, glass is really, technically, a plastic of sorts. glass is nothing more than a thin hard "skin" (on each face of the glass) that lays on top of a "softer" material. don't get me wrong, just cuz i say plastic, doesn't mean it's not strong or hard. anyway, when you break glass, if the "skins" are more elastic, the glass is liable to simply crack in a hairline, or, like that of a windshield, spidercrack but hold together, mostly maintaining shape, depending on the type of impact. but when the skin is less elastic, this is when you get the shatter effect, because the inner material cannot maintain shape without it. and much like the rubber of a popping balloon, the skin immediately retracts, releasing the inner material, and the glass falls apart into little pieces.
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11-06-2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. but i don't think it's really legit. I would assume those wheels are made out of some other material, like maybe a composition of lexan and other sorts, there are other acrylics and plastics that are rather strong.
don't trust everything you find on the interweb.
as for cracking and shattering, glass is really, technically, a plastic of sorts. glass is nothing more than a thin hard "skin" (on each face of the glass) that lays on top of a "softer" material. don't get me wrong, just cuz i say plastic, doesn't mean it's not strong or hard. anyway, when you break glass, if the "skins" are more elastic, the glass is liable to simply crack in a hairline, or, like that of a windshield, spidercrack but hold together, mostly maintaining shape, depending on the type of impact. Â*but when the skin is less elastic, this is when you get the shatter effect, because the inner material cannot maintain shape without it. and much like the rubber of a popping balloon, the skin immediately retracts, releasing the inner material, and the glass falls apart into little pieces.
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wow, do you have a phd in glass-ology?
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11-06-2005, 09:25 PM
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its holdin the wheels on thats good enough for me
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11-06-2005, 09:34 PM
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it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. keep them outta jersey potholes, then...
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11-08-2005, 12:03 PM
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it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. keep them outta jersey potholes, then...
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It's definatly a ceramic but ceramic's are also usually defined as non-metallic. This is where the definitions aren't so clear because what they should say is non-transition or non-magnetic metals because AL (aluminum) is a metal!
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. (blah blah blah)
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I can't say if the wheels look legit or not. For me the pictures aren't working. If they are completely clear then I'd say fake, probably a plastic. If they're aren't completely transparent then they could very well be made of Alumina.
It's still aluminum. Alumina; AL2O3 aka Aluminum Oxide has been around for years. It's found in all aluminum that has been exposed to ozone. The patina that is formed is Alumina. The properties of Alumina are very hard and used in abrasive blasting. I got a 50lb bag of it to clean off rust when I ever get my blasting cabinet finished.
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11-08-2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jims69camaro
it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. Â*and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. Â*keep them outta jersey potholes, then...
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It's definatly a ceramic but ceramic's are also usually defined as non-metallic. This is where the definitions aren't so clear because what they should say is non-transition or non-magnetic metals because AL (aluminum) is a metal!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. (blah blah blah)
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I can't say if the wheels look legit or not. For me the pictures aren't working. If they are completely clear then I'd say fake, probably a plastic. If they're aren't completely transparent then they could very well be made of Alumina.
It's still aluminum. Alumina; AL2O3 aka Aluminum Oxide has been around for years. It's found in all aluminum that has been exposed to ozone. The patina that is formed is Alumina. The properties of Alumina are very hard and used in abrasive blasting. I got a 50lb bag of it to clean off rust when I ever get my blasting cabinet finished.
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11-08-2005, 12:36 PM
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Maybe just black magic?
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Maybe just black magic?
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why's it gots ta be a black thang?
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11-08-2005, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by jims69camaro
it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. Â*and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. Â*keep them outta jersey potholes, then...
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It's definatly a ceramic but ceramic's are also usually defined as non-metallic. This is where the definitions aren't so clear because what they should say is non-transition or non-magnetic metals because AL (aluminum) is a metal!
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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. (blah blah blah)
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I can't say if the wheels look legit or not. For me the pictures aren't working. If they are completely clear then I'd say fake, probably a plastic. If they're aren't completely transparent then they could very well be made of Alumina.
It's still aluminum. Alumina; AL2O3 aka Aluminum Oxide has been around for years. It's found in all aluminum that has been exposed to ozone. The patina that is formed is Alumina. The properties of Alumina are very hard and used in abrasive blasting. I got a 50lb bag of it to clean off rust when I ever get my blasting cabinet finished.
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it is a ceramic with aluminum oxide in it... the quote was "much harder than either glass or steel", making reference to the two properties (i guess) of glass and 'metal'. i'd still bank on shatter, but at what point it would shatter would be a mystery. how much force would it take to break a ceramic interlaced with aluminum oxide? wouldn't that much depend on how much of the two (or more) ingredients...
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Maybe just black magic?
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why's it gots ta be a black thang?
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thats brown magic....
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