matt (wayfast84)

[Brando56894]

how do u get bronow out of brando? some of your stuff sounds nothing like the words it should be and now to answer your question:

eye haf sum won reed itt two mea

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Rob WS6

I saw that error too, Jim... I just didnt feel like saying anything at the time.

Oh and Jim, in the English language, its always a good idea to capitalize the first letter of each sentence.

now, see, that's a stylistic choice as opposed to making an error. never in my life have i ever capitalized the first letter of every sentence (nor proper nouns, nor... you get the point) while typing anything other than business correspondence. it's a choice i made long ago and i like it. nothing else about my typing can be argued except for the occasional typo, because i did pay attention in english class - it was important to me. math, on the other hand...

[Brando56894]

teachers must of loved you back in school if u didnt capitalize anything....

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Brando56894

teachers must of loved you back in school if u didnt capitalize anything....

no, i am talking about after school. i wouldn't've passed any of my classes if i NEVER capitalized anything. sorry for the misunderstanding.

[turbo96z28]

Originally Posted by Brando56894

how do u get bronow out of brando? some of your stuff sounds nothing like the words it should be and now to answer your question:

eye haf sum won reed itt two mea

i just used keys closest to the right ones for the proper spelling

and about your awnser:


eye haf soem wun ree iit tuo mea tou!!!1111!!!one!!111!!!!

[Rob WS6]

I was just kidding around, but actually I think this could spark an intelligent debate!

Maybe I misunderstood your reasoning, but are you saying that capitalization is merely a stylistic choice as opposed to a rule of english grammar?

[Brando56894]

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

no, i am talking about after school. i wouldn't've passed any of my classes if i NEVER capitalized anything. sorry for the misunderstanding.

thats what i figured...

i just used keys closest to the right ones for the proper spelling

i guess that could work if the keys were in ABC order.....

[PBodyGT87]

My pet peeves of grammar. (and this will contain some vernacular, thank, so don't nitpick it, please. I'm just out to make points.)

Know the difference between "than" and "then", and use them correctly.
You're and Your.
Never double abbreviate words. "Couldn't've said it better" is completely incorrect, thought that's how we say it, that is not how one would write it. You have to pick the "not" abbreviation or spell it out. "Couldn't have", or "Could not have".

Also, properly written highschool-to-college level papers are not to contain abbreviations at all. If you would like to say "wouldn't" you must say "would not". (can't - cannot, don't - do not, haven't - have not, etc.) As well, avoid using the word "you" when refering to the reader. Use "one" instead, so that the next time one writes a paper, one gets an A.

I before E except after C.

Tip: Try to avoid using the word "it" in a paper, use it only once. This makes the writing more colorful when items are described by their nature or by their formal name. Also, never being a sentence with the same word more than once, and come up with several different ways of describing something, so that, again, your writing is more colorful. It makes a paper look far more intelligent.

Any time you feel there needs to be a pause or a breath, it probably needs a comma there.


okay i'm done it's too early in the morning for this....

[turbo96z28]

(waiting for someone to find the mistakes in last post)

[badzracing]

Originally Posted by PBodyGT87

My pet peeves of grammar. (and this will contain some vernacular, thank, so don't nitpick it, please. I'm just out to make points.)


I before E except after C.



okay i'm done it's too early in the morning for this....

My last name is ZEIgler. My pet peeve is when just about all of my mail is addressed to David ZIEgler. In conclusion, I is not always before E except after C. Thank you; that is all.

[BonzoHansen]

This old schoolroom spelling rule is supposed to help remember
the spelling of vowels pronounced /i:/, the long "e" sound of "feed".
It has no value for words where the vowel is pronounced in any other
way, the key fact which people bemused by many "exceptions" to the
rule usually do not realise. A version often cited in the U.K.
makes the restriction clear:

When the sound is /i:/,
it's I before E
except after C.

A common U.S. version:

...
or when pronounced /eI/
as in "neighbour" and "weigh".

is misleading, as "ei" has many other pronunciations, as in, for
instance, "height", "heifer", and "forfeit". The rule also fails to
apply to names (Sheila, Keith, Leigh, etc.).

"I before E": Properly applied, the rule is a very useful guide for
people who are not naturally excellent spellers; those who are may
look out for themselves. To an RP speaker, the exceptions in common
use are very few: they are "seize", "inveigle", "caffeine",
"protein", and "codeine". (The last three were originally
pronounced as three-syllable words.) Other dialects pronounce a few
other -ei- words with /i:/, making extra exceptions: "either" and
"neither" (RP vowel: /aI/, as in "pie"), "geisha" and "sheik(h)"
(RP: /eI/, as in "say"), and "leisure" (RP: /E/, as in "get"). (Of
course, derivatives of the above words, such as "seizure",
"decaffeinate", and "sheik(h)dom", are spelled similarly.) There
are many exceptions in Scots, so speakers with a large Scots
vocabulary may as well give up on this rule. The vowel in "weir"
and "weird" is usually quite different, as comparison of "weird" and
"weed" will show; for most speakers, "weird" has a diphthong.

"except after C": Fowler, who called the rule "very useful", noted:
"The c exception covers the many derivatives of Latin capio
[= "take"], which are in such common use (receive, deceit,
inconceivable; cf. relieve, belief, irretrievable) that a
simple rule of thumb is necessary." For most Britons, /i:/ after C
is always "ei" rather than "ie", except in "specie" and "species".
Americans generally pronounce -cies and -cied in words derived from
-cy endings (e.g., "fancies" and "fancied" from "fancy") with /i:/
rather than /I/, making these words exceptions. Still, few people
have any difficulty pluralizing -y, so such speakers should still be
able to extract some value from the rule, by the application of a
little common sense.

[PBodyGT87]

Originally Posted by badzracing

My last name is ZEIgler. My pet peeve is when just about all of my mail is addressed to David ZIEgler. In conclusion, I is not always before E except after C. Thank you; that is all.

Grammar doesn't apply to names, most of the time, because they aren't part of the English language. Names are often derivitives of other languages, and unless your name can be defined in a dictionary, it's not necessarily a "real word" in the English language. My last name is Pelikan. So, is it spelled wrong? Not for my name it isn't. Grammatical rules are not meant to be applied to names. But that's unfortunate that everyone spells your's wrong, hahaha. It'd be my pet peeve too if I were in your position.

[PBodyGT87]

Anyone who has a natural knack for spelling things knows that there are exceptions to every rule.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by PBodyGT87

Grammar doesn't apply to names, most of the time, because they aren't part of the English language. Names are often derivitives of other languages, and unless your name can be defined in a dictionary, it's not necessarily a "real word" in the English language. My last name is Pelikan. So, is it spelled wrong? Not for my name it isn't. Grammatical rules are not meant to be applied to names. But that's unfortunate that everyone spells your's wrong, hahaha. It'd be my pet peeve too if I were in your position.

Yes it is! Go back to antarctica!!!

[Brando56894]

Originally Posted by PBodyGT87

I before E except after C.

this still isnt 100% true with names aside there are words in the english dictionary that don't abide by this rule. i cant think of any though...

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Rob WS6

I was just kidding around, but actually I think this could spark an intelligent debate!

Maybe I misunderstood your reasoning, but are you saying that capitalization is merely a stylistic choice as opposed to a rule of english grammar?

no, it's one i choose not to use, as opposed to being ignorant of the rule. i am not unknowing or trying to disprove the rules in my approach to english and grammar. but i do decide not to apply some of the rules. kind of like the lutherans and the catholic church.

i attempt to apply all rules when writing business correspondence. i even employ a spelling and grammar checker, as i am not omniscient, either.