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10-20-2006, 03:40 PM
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plain and simple.. judges dont wanna hear stories/exuses.. trust me, ive been to court many times.
Best bet, LAWYER!!!!!
ive gotten a wreckless driving and they let me go cause in the same instance as you, it wasnt witnessed by a cop
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10-20-2006, 04:04 PM
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lawyer. dont give them a ******** excuse, youll get the ticket anyway and youll have to pay for the court fee too.
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10-20-2006, 04:17 PM
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First, u cant plead innocent. U can plead NOT GUILTY. If your going to try and fight it then look up the laws. Do research besides just getting a lawyer. The "reckless driving" ticket is a great ticket for the police officer. He will not gladly give that ticket up. Worst thing he can do is take pics of ur marks u left on the street. He could also match the marks to ur tire tread pattern.
BOOM caught.
First thing u should of done was feed the officer's ego. If u did then u probably would of gotten out of the ticket. Well actually you wouldnt of. Your friends ruined it for you. If your going to do burnouts then do them in your drivbeway of a friends drive. Atleast then its private property.
Not meaning to be mean or an A-hole but I kno what its like to be a young moron with a hot car. I have 20 points on my DL. Im 20 going to be 21 next month.
You can try for "unsafe opperations" but i doubt ull get it. MY friend got a speeding ticket on 80 for 96 in watever the speed limit is. She went to court with a lawyer with ur GDL DL. She lost her DL for i think 3 wks and payed $400 to court n then watever the lawyer was.
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10-20-2006, 04:28 PM
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ok, ive been to court many times, have cop friends and everything so i'll give my advice...
get a lawyer if you can afford it, like jake said, it could be as much as 1500, or as little as 500 too though, But you WILL save that much or more in insurance surcharges over the next 3 years, so in the long run it will pay off.
OR (if lawyer fees are something you cant tale care of)
go into court and talk to the prosecutor(you always get to before court) and see if the cop will agree to reducing the summons to careless driving and say you'll plead guilty to that(pleading guily to the ammended charge) That way you'll still have the fine but it'll drop the points from 5 to just 2. In this case, call it a lesson learned and deal with it.
Whatever you do, DONT try to make an excuse(bleach rain etc) because the judge will see right through it and then you WILL be found guilty of reckless.
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10-20-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by r0nin89
Thinking this may be a better route...
Gonna plead innocent and say that the road was wet from rain and I suspect that one of my friend put bleach on my tire (causing all the smoke left at the bottom of the street). Going that aproach I think I .
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 that sure as hell won't work  bleach
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10-20-2006, 05:12 PM
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i know i have no room to talk but..
1. this is why you dont need 400hp.
2. Dont lie, in court or anywhere else..unless its keeping some one else from getting cought..
3.If you have a ticket from the day before(what I thought i read) get the vasoline ready...
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10-20-2006, 06:11 PM
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You have the GDL right? So right there the judge wont like you. Most likely by now the town cops along with the Judge know all thew GDL laws. A good Lawyer is ur best bet. If your debating between two and one is $600 and the other is $1200, then choose the $1200 one. Its worth it.
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10-20-2006, 07:38 PM
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if i was the judge and you told my your bleach story you would have no lisence. bleach?! bwhahaha dont be like brando and learn to drive in the rain...
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10-20-2006, 08:54 PM
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bleach actually softens the rubber and makes the tires stickier. that story wouldn't work
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and 1 more smart ass answer by you and i'm going to reach into this monitor and grab you by the throat
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10-20-2006, 08:57 PM
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You should have looked for this sign.
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10-20-2006, 10:17 PM
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You should have looked for this sign.
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haha.
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10-20-2006, 10:36 PM
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careless driving is 2 pts, yet unsafe driving is 0.. but i cant plead down to that again cuz ivce done it twice already, i need to wait
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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10-20-2006, 10:40 PM
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careless driving is 2 pts, yet unsafe driving is 0.. but i cant plead down to that again cuz ivce done it twice already, i need to wait |
Yea. unless u get one of those nice prosecutoers that screws u and writes down the wrong statue number and ends up giving u a totoal of 4 points rather than 2.
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10-20-2006, 10:41 PM
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4 rather than 4 eh? 
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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10-20-2006, 10:46 PM
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do what i did go to advance auto parts buy 2 brake calipers ,front brakes and 2 brake lines ,bring the recipt to court tell the judge that you had problm with your brakes tell him that your brakes locked and the car went skidding at 25 mph thats what i did i got off all the charges i still had to pay 400 no points i went without a lawyer try it good luck hope it helps
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10-20-2006, 10:49 PM
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4 rather than 4 eh? |
Ok guy. I fixed it.
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10-21-2006, 08:10 AM
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do what i did go to advance auto parts buy 2 brake calipers ,front brakes and 2 brake lines ,bring the recipt to court tell the judge that you had problm with your brakes tell him that your brakes locked and the car went skidding at 25 mph thats what i did i got off all the charges i still had to pay 400 no points i went without a lawyer try it good luck hope it helps
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bahhahaha, then give them to me plz, i need brakes, but i guess im good since she doesnt run
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10-21-2006, 02:11 PM
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Well heres the thing. The cops in my town hand out reckless driving's like its nothing. Two of my friend received reckless driving tickets (one for thoroughfair and one for donuts in the school parking lot). Now I know that both went to court talked to the prosecutor with the provided attorney and had it reduced to careless. Then were given the option to pay additional money for no points. This is what I would like to do. If I am going to get that same result from the appointed lawyer and my lawyer why am I going to pay extra?
I'm beginning to see I'll get the book thrown at me if I try to make any excuses. I'd still like to weigh on the whole the cop didnt see me thing though. This monday a neighbor of mine who is a cop is going to look the report up for me and find out if the witness identified my plate. If not I may call my lawyer about pleading not guilty and trying to get it dropped all together for lack of what I guess you would call evidence. The onyl other problem I see in doing that is that the cop went to my house afterwarda and claimed my tires were scorching hot 30mins later...
I'm so tempted to put a posi rear in my car and just go in there any say that cant be my marks are from and open rear... Ah in a perfect movie like world right?
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10-21-2006, 02:39 PM
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donuts = reckless.
i wish i was given that option... i have waaaay too many points on my license atm.
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dumbass.
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10-21-2006, 03:14 PM
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ahh yes ur poor innocent friends werent BREAKING THE LAW, grow some nuts dude and stop bull****ting.
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10-21-2006, 04:17 PM
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I'm so tempted to put a posi rear in my car and just go in there any say that cant be my marks are from and open rear... Ah in a perfect movie like world right?
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 it be cheaper to pay the ticket!! ( i know you kidding). your thinking of way to many ways to beat this. that proves one thing......that your guilty. buck up and pay the price for being stupid. get a laywer have him get it knocked down to the best he can and pay up. next time thick twice
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10-21-2006, 04:24 PM
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it be cheaper to pay the ticket!! ( i know you kidding). your thinking of way to many ways to beat this. that proves one thing......that your guilty. buck up and pay the price for being stupid. get a laywer have him get it knocked down to the best he can and pay up. next time thick twice |
+1 suck it up and pay for what you did
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dumbass.
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10-21-2006, 05:28 PM
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Geez, now I know why NJ has the highest insurance. Is there anybody that doesn't have any ticket or points? I didn't get a ticket until I was 25 I think.
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10-21-2006, 05:31 PM
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Location: Boston/North
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6 tickets; 3 major, 3 bs tack-ons
Reckless Driving; Busted Tail light, (had translucent red tape over it)
Speeding; 54 in a 35, Improper Display of front license plate
Speeding; 77 in a 55 (doubt it/going with the speed of traffic he just picked me out), obstruction of view [fuzzy dice]
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10-21-2006, 05:43 PM
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AFAIK, you cant get points if the offense was not on a public roadway, ie parkinglots, driveway etc. but dont quote me on that
and if the cop didnt see you, and a witness didnt sign the complaint AND is able to ID you/show up in court, the ticket is BS
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