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lol i like the red gta wagon actually...lower it n throw some TTs on it
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04-22-2010, 07:15 AM
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Im no going to lie, that red GTA is growing on me. I think the european in me is coming out too 
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04-22-2010, 01:08 PM
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Always did like the wagon kits for f-body. Who makes the red and white kits? Or are they OE?
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04-22-2010, 01:15 PM
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It doesnt look that bad..there are far worst then that and alot more money spent!
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04-22-2010, 06:41 PM
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OK, the red and the white kammbacks are prototypes. But I do believe it was available on the second gen trans am as an option. I recall seeing a few on the road.
How about this 4th gen Hurst version?
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The one-off machine, known as the Hurst Hauler, has made it to auction on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $35K. Originally introduced for the Y2K SEMA Show in Las Vegas, the car went on to star in the 2001 Hot Rod Power Tour driven by the guys at Year One. Based on a 2000 WS6-equipped TA, the ram air-fed 5.7L LS1 small block has seen some extra tuning in the form of a Corsa exhaust, custom-ground Erson camshaft, Accel fuel injectors and custom ECU tuning from TTS Power Systems. The result is about 370 horses according to The General's official press release from back in the day, which we've gone ahead and pasted after the break. Be sure to check out our gallery of pics, including the car posing with Miss Hurst herself, Linda Vaughn
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04-22-2010, 06:59 PM
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these wagons are making me uneasy ... i dont like it i dont like it one bit
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04-22-2010, 07:02 PM
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not so much the 4th gen...but the third gen wagon is doin me..
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04-22-2010, 07:07 PM
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This was a production option. The GTA Notchback. People still pop out copies of the rear hatch. You can find them on ebay sometimes if you want to make your own Notchback.
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04-22-2010, 07:21 PM
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lol we all know about the notches...but the hurst hauler was NEVER an option. ''one-off'' means ''one off''
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04-22-2010, 07:22 PM
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This was a production option. The GTA Notchback. People still pop out copies of the rear hatch. You can find them on ebay sometimes if you want to make your own Notchback.
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I was under the impression that none of these were production options, I thought they were post production mods like the ASC and SLP cars.
What's the RPO?
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04-22-2010, 07:40 PM
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The only other exterior option was the short-lived GTA Notchback of 1988-89. Seeking something to further differentiate the GTA models from the rest of the Firebird line and in an attempt to lessen the "greenhouse effect" from the big rear hatchback glass, GM came up with the idea of an optional flat-glassed rear notchback hatch lid (RPO AA8), similar in appearance to the 1968-1976 Chevrolet Corvettes. Beginning in December of 1987, this was a GTA-specific option and could not be ordered on any other Firebird (or Chevrolet Camaro model).
Production records show a total of 625 units were built during 1988 and 1989. The option was actually canceled before the start of production for 1989; a dealer bulletin in August 1988 announced its demise, instructing dealers to recall any and all GTA orders with the Notchback code on them. Still, PMD records show that one single car was built for 1989........ no doubt the car pictured above from the 1989 Pontiac brochure.
Today these GTAs are very rare sights and are highly collectible, even though the style really did not catch on during their brief production run. These cars were the only GTAs not to use a variation of the rear aero-wing spoiler, since the notchback design changed the layout of the hatch lid. PMD engineers simply installed the standard flat Firebird spoiler instead of the usual aero-wing unit.
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04-22-2010, 07:47 PM
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I wish I could find a picture of a 2nd gen wagon. Because they were not hatchbacks, I guess it was all metal work. The roofline was so sloped on the regular T/A that when continued on a wagon roof line, it resulted in a rear window that was very short and narrow.
I always assumed these were OE options, but I can't find anything on the net about them. Maybe they were a post-dealer conversion. Still don't know why I can't find pics of them.
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Mods: 3.73 Gears, Eaton TrueTrac, PCM Tune, LS1 Aluminum Drive Shaft, Cold Air Intake, 180 Thermostat, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, Moog LCA busings.
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04-22-2010, 07:54 PM
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i know a lot about notchbacks, they are nothing new.
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04-22-2010, 09:03 PM
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04-22-2010, 10:15 PM
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guys... im gettin all upset here lol
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04-22-2010, 10:44 PM
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damnn that 5th gen wagon is pretty awesome lol
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04-23-2010, 09:58 AM
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Hmmm. Might just be time to pull out some foam blocks and fiberglass....
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04-23-2010, 10:20 AM
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2nd and 5th gen, burn those mutha ****a's to the ground!!
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04-23-2010, 10:24 AM
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I wish I could find a picture of a 2nd gen wagon. Because they were not hatchbacks, I guess it was all metal work. The roofline was so sloped on the regular T/A that when continued on a wagon roof line, it resulted in a rear window that was very short and narrow.
I always assumed these were OE options, but I can't find anything on the net about them. Maybe they were a post-dealer conversion. Still don't know why I can't find pics of them.
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That I can answer. You are thinking of the Kammback concept. It was never approved for production.
http://www.fbodydomain.com/Firebird/2ndGenWag/Wag.asp
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04-23-2010, 01:24 PM
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Nope, not the kammback. These were on the road, and did not have wrap over side windows. They were also much smaller, being tapered down quite a bit in the back.
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04-23-2010, 01:32 PM
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Nope, not the kammback. These were on the road, and did not have wrap over side windows. They were also much smaller, being tapered down quite a bit in the back.
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You are sure it was a 2nd gen Firebird? Not another Pontiac model?
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04-23-2010, 01:34 PM
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You mean a Vega (I forget the Pontiac version)?
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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04-23-2010, 02:11 PM
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You mean a Vega (I forget the Pontiac version)?
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04-25-2010, 04:23 PM
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Lol your dating yourself by knowing that.
And that 2nd Gen Camaro is god-awfully ugly.
I don't think it works or the 2nd or 4th Gens. You need that squarer look of the 3rd and 5th to pull it off.
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04-25-2010, 04:49 PM
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Lol your dating yourself by knowing that.
And that 2nd Gen Camaro is god-awfully ugly.
I don't think it works or the 2nd or 4th Gens. You need that squarer look of the 3rd and 5th to pull it off.
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Ha!
Believe it or not, there was a pro-street one for sale at Maple Grove 2 weeks ago.
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