US ARMY

[Lt1_8U]

Get ready to do a duck walk in your underwear with a bunch of guys lol. Also drink water before your blood test. Do not drink orange juice the morning before!

[Jersyboyy]

After you take the asvab, and score high enough to get a good job that will transfer into civilian life and if you decide you want to go a more technical route feel free to text me 919 244 6903. 2 years now as a Jet Propulsion Mechanic in the Air Force. My basic and Tech school earned me college credits not to mention I fix million dollar engines everyday im at work. Great job for a gear head and has a bucnh of options for civilian work once youve done a few years active. Also know a bunch of security forces and crew chiefs if you wanted info there.

BUT seriously and im not trying to offend you but dammit this is just me calling it as I see it. You sound and obviously are IGNORANT. Your saying you want to do these badass grunt jobs and be a bad ass but deny say all you want to do is shoot ppl and **** **** up.
You have no idea what your asking to hop into, my ranger and marine grunt buddies will all tell you DONT BE A DUMBASS. Each and every last one of them got the hell out of dodge once their 4 year contract was up because as a grunt your USED AND ABUSED and thrown away. Now that they are out all they got going for them is the post 9/11 GI bill to go to school.

Guys in other fields get out with tons of useful skills and college credits already just from doing a job that takes some more brain power and still supports the grunts plus they got all their school benefits.


You really want a badass job, Youtube Pararescue, TACP or Combat Controller, all Air Force Spec ops.
Im currently training on my own time to CROSS TRAIN INTO Pararescue.
*CROSSTRAIN= being completely qualified at one AFSC(airforce term for MOS) and going into another, having double training earning more college credits along with a few other perks*

[greenformula92]

Originally Posted by Jersyboyy

Each and every last one of them got the hell out of dodge once their 4 year contract was up because as a grunt your USED AND ABUSED and thrown away. Now that they are out all they got going for them is the post 9/11 GI bill to go to school.

Yeah I have a friend that was a Marine Grunt that is taking advantage of the GI Bill. that being said he got lucky to get a corrections job but its a minimum security prison on Fort Dix. That being said his first job after 2 tours in Iraq and some medals....his first civilian job after coming back was at Lowes

[Slow-V6]

Just dont be a idiot! If you score High on the Asvab and still pick a Grunt job then I am sorry but your wasting a great chance. I worked on aircraft and troubleshot problems in the Navy. from that experience now, I work on Medical equipment in hospitals troubleshooting and what not. All this with a GED. I beat out 4 other applicants who all had degrees as Biomedical engineers but little or no experience.

I worked on Jets on the flight deck of aircraftcarriers out in the middle of the Persian gulf on pitch black nights were you couldnt see your hand in front of your face. These planes had to be fixed promptly to supply air support for the Marines and Soldiers in the field. During my interview my boss asked me to give him examples of working underpressure on electronic equipment. Oh I had alot of examples. Pretty sure he asked the other applicants as well But for just coming out of College I am sure they were limited!

You dont need to be on the front lines to feel as though you served your country! I feel that pride every day. I use to love seeing a F14 that I just fixed the Heads Up Display on launch off the cat full of bombs and then 8 hrs later come back with no bombs! I wasnt there on the ground or on the front lines but I still had a big impact on the wars! The pilots would come down to the shop and show us the bombing videos and the best ones were when you saw a bunch of Marines outnumberd and out gunned about to get over run and then a big flash and nothing but Marines left! Some would even look up and wave!

We have been in your shoes and have made it through the Military or are still in it. We are all saying the same thing! There must be a good reason why we are telling you this!

[crazyl]

One of my Instructors from OK, is now out of the Marines and is working for a company that deals with Radar technology. He did 8 years active and now is making 6 figures a year because of his MOS. Pick something that can translate into the civilian world.

[RyanDestroysWorlds]

I went through the ASVAB and MEPS for the marines, All I know is that the army kids had it way easier. More jobs are offered in the army, just be careful cause recruiters like to say anything to get you in. PM me if you need any advice, I just had 2 of my best friends finish their last tour in the marines and are home for good so im sure they would be willing to help as well.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Slow-V6

I scored a 69 on the asvab

When I took the ASVAB 15 years ago I scored a lot higher than that. The recruiter said he couldnt belive how high I scored. He hounded me for weeks/months to try to get me to join. He said I could have had any job I wanted

No slight against you Jeff, just makes sense why he bothered me for so long after I basically said I didnt want to enlist.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Paul Huryk

I sometimes wonder how well I would do on those tests, although I'm a bit past 40 and have no actual interest, even as an officer...

They are super easy.. If you can add and have common sense you will be good to go.

+ 1 for going in and getting something that will lead to a more prosperous life down the line, not just shooting ****.

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

When I took the ASVAB 15 years ago I scored a lot higher than that. The recruiter said he couldnt belive how high I scored. He hounded me for weeks/months to try to get me to join. He said I could have had any job I wanted

No slight against you Jeff, just makes sense why he bothered me for so long after I basically said I didnt want to enlist.

My brother got 1 question wrong on the entire test! He became a Nuke on a sub in the Navy. I scored pretty good considerring I was a hs dropout without a GED. I could have gotten a better grade if I put more effort into the test but whatever. That was a long time ago and I am happy that the job I got in the Navy got me into this bad ass job I have now out of the Navy..

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Slow-V6

My brother got 1 question wrong on the entire test! He became a Nuke on a sub in the Navy. I scored pretty good considerring I was a hs dropout without a GED. I could have gotten a better grade if I put more effort into the test but whatever. That was a long time ago and I am happy that the job I got in the Navy got me into this bad ass job I have now out of the Navy..

I think I only got one or two wrong too. I didnt know you had a GED. My understanding was that most people dont score very high at all, like 50% is a decent score for most people, so considering, you did pretty well too.

I would have liked to have your job in the Navy, working on planes must have been a really cool job.

[Z28 Heritage]

My uncle still works grunts jobs mowing lawns, cleaning out house's and a few other things. This is my choice and i'm going to go with what i feel is the best for me. Now i'm thankful for all of the input but i don't thank people who think i'm going in just to kill people. So i'm going to take the ASVAB and see how good i do and i'll go from there. But in the mean time i'm going to stick with the grunt choice untill i see my score.



Thanks
-Wes

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I would have liked to have your job in the Navy, working on planes must have been a really cool job.

It was cool at times. I basically reapaired circuit boards from radar systems and missle tracking system that are on the jets. I also replaced Stick grips and repaired HUDs. It was pretty cool being on carriers and watching the Jets I did fix go from being in the Hanger bay to launching off the deck.

I think a part of my interest in remaining in the Navy died when they retired the F14 Tomcats!! Those were my planes. There Pheonix Missiles and tracking systems were top notch. It could track 24 targets and could fire 6 missles @ 6 different targets at once! The Missiles would climb to 100,000 feet @ speeds of Mach 5 and had a range of 200 Km. Top speeds were around 1600 mph for the Jet. The new Super Hornets are cool but cant touch the Tomcat in speed and missle systems.

[crazyl]

I applaud you for looking into the military. That greats, but I read what you wanted to do and what you wanted after your contract. I am very confused. What is it that you exactly want to do ( if you got a high score and got to choose).
How is your medical background? Do you think you will have any problems at MEPS?


This is just my thoughts
Grunt = Marine
Infantry = Army

[Z28 Heritage]

Originally Posted by crazyl

I applaud you for looking into the military. That greats, but I read what you wanted to do and what you wanted after your contract. I am very confused. What is it that you exactly want to do ( if you got a high score and got to choose).
How is your medical background? Do you think you will have any problems at MEPS?


This is just my thoughts
Grunt = Marine
Infantry = Army

Medical background i'm good there also. I'm willing to do any job i have to after the military to make it every month.

Infantry that's what i want to do.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by 92camarodude

I'm willing to do any job i have to after the military to make it every month.

Seems like a very misguided decision. But hey, we don't have to live with the consequences.

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Seems like a very misguided decision. But hey, we don't have to live with the consequences.

You know, I have to agree with you. I know everyone has told you what to do and you seem pretty focused on just being at the bottom of the totem pole. Why do that to yourself? If you have opportunities given to you, why not take them? Why would you shut doors for yourself when you could really do great things for your life and have a successful life in the civilian world? Just make sure you keep all that has been said in the front of your mind when you enlist, its all great advice that will give you so much opportunity later on. It doesn't hurt to think about your future, it comes up quick.

[Z28 Heritage]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

You know, I have to agree with you. I know everyone has told you what to do and you seem pretty focused on just being at the bottom of the totem pole. Why do that to yourself? If you have opportunities given to you, why not take them? Why would you shut doors for yourself when you could really do great things for your life and have a successful life in the civilian world? Just make sure you keep all that has been said in the front of your mind when you enlist, its all great advice that will give you so much opportunity later on. It doesn't hurt to think about your future, it comes up quick.

Why do that? Because its my dream i'm going to live not anybody else's. Its my right to choose what i want my job to be after i pass meps. Its what i think i'm going to be good at and what will make me happy. I'm taking everybody's advice but i'm the one that has to make the decision. Thanks for the input guys. But i think i'm pretty good for now.

[crazyl]

I wish I was as motivated as this one! My job helped me land a career with Police and hopefully a Federal agency one day. But that me.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Seems like a very misguided decision. But hey, we don't have to live with the consequences.

We might have to if he gets out of the military and realizes that he's not qualified for anything else but working as a cashier in walmart or collecting welfare/unemployment.

stop clogging up the damn lines and taking money out of our pockets dammit.


honestly it sounds like youre afraid you'll fail if you do anything other than grunt.

[Ian]

I scored a 90 on my asvab and my gt score was 131. I've been in the Marine Corps for a little over two years as an 0311 (rifleman). Does my job transfer to the civilian world? Nope. Could I have gotten any other job in the military? Yup.

The infantry is a very demanding job. Its nothing like what you would think it would be though. The only time I truly enjoyed my job was in Afghanistan...and even that was very bitter-sweet (some close calls here and there).

If I had to do it over again, I'd probably do the same thing. As much as this job sucks, I will never regret doing it.

Now that that has been said, I would never EVER advise someone to join the infantry.

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by Ian

Now that that has been said, I would never EVER advise someone to join the infantry.

Why not??

[Ian]

In my experience, there is way too much stupidity leading the effort.

[Slow-V6]

Originally Posted by 92camarodude

Why do that? Because its my dream i'm going to live not anybody else's. Its my right to choose what i want my job to be after i pass meps. Its what i think i'm going to be good at and what will make me happy. I'm taking everybody's advice but i'm the one that has to make the decision. Thanks for the input guys. But i think i'm pretty good for now.

Just remember you made this thread asking for peoples advice. People like us who have served or are still serving. They are all telling you the same thing.

It might not matter now that you are young and probably have no kids but later on when you have your own family ( if you dont allready do) and your dreams in life have to include them you will be kicking yourself for not taking the best job you could! Its the Military no matter if you are a infrantry man or a Nuclear scientist! You get paid the same while your in the Military. The difference is that if you get a job as a Nuke by the time you are out of Boot Camp your already a E4, and by the time you are done with your schooling your already a E-5. So less then 2 years in your already a E-5! You could make E-6 by 4 yrs in some cases and E-7 in 7 yrs!! Thats insane! There is about a 400.00 a month pay raise between E-3,E-4 and the same between E4,E5..

When your a E4 right out of boot camp then the trainging school you go to you get more benifits! In the Navy E4's got there own Barricks room! E3 and below had to share a room with 2 other people. There were 3 people in a room and our room was connected to a single bathroom ( head) and we shared that with 6 other people. When you get to your 1st command they give E4's the option to live in the barricks or move out into town! When you move into town the Military pays you 1300.00 ( based on were you live. In Philly area its 1700.00 ) a month for a apartment but if you find a roomate and an apartment for say 800.00 a month then your only paying 400.00 and you keep the rest! Most commands dont allow e3 and below this benifit. When your a E4 in your 1st command then you wont get the crap duty like cleaning heads or waxing floors.

There are so much more benifits that the recruiter dont tell you. If you score High enough for the great jobs then take one of those! You wont regret it. It only means higher ranking, more money, more benifits, better way of life. You still get every benifit a infranty person will get. Same GI bill, Same tuition assistance..

I find it odd that your dream is to be a Machine gunner/ infrantry person but you do not want to kill anyone? Kinda like building a 8 second race car and you never want to run it!

Originally Posted by Ian

In my experience, there is way too much stupidity leading the effort.

I hear you.. Same is true in the Navy!

[Tsar]

Maybe OP has some romanticized way of thinking about being a "grunt"/infantry man?

You wanna do something fun OP? Sign up for 18x contract. Chances are you won't make it, as 90%+ people don't. If you do, you will probably try out some of the coolest **** you've ever seen and done in your life. If you fail, hey you have nothing to lose - 5 years in the infantry is your "punishment".

Should be a win-win for you.

[crainholio]

Originally Posted by 92camarodude

That's just what i would like to do is be a gunner i'm sorry if i offended you in anyway. But i have to say a gunner would be my number one choice now thinking about it. Everyone here has great advice and i thank all of you.

Tank crew roles aren't separate MOS's, they are assigned as a function of proficiency, training, and rank. When I was in, a new arrival from Ft. Knox (now Benning) got the loader slot. As he developed proficiency and a slot opened, he'd move to driver. Then back to school for PLDC, some training time in the gunner's seat learning how to boresight and acquire targets on the move, promotion to E-5 and a gunner assignment if he was good. After that, BNOC and some time commanding the tank and leading the crew while the TC was on leave...and a promotion to E-6 and a TC slot when one came open. If the guy was really good at gunning, and planned to stay in, I'd put him in for Master Gunner school.

There was at least one re-enlistment before gunner assignment, just based on the time it takes to get there.