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06-09-2010, 07:19 PM
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Anyone know what happened with this? Seems like everything with toyota has been pushed aside with the oil spill
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06-09-2010, 07:23 PM
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Anyone know what happened with this? Seems like everything with toyota has been pushed aside with the oil spill
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Yes, you solved the conspiracy. 
In other news, GM cars are bursting into flames again! w00tz!
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06-09-2010, 07:30 PM
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Didn't mean it like it was a conspiracy, I just mean that it seems like there is more important stuff in the news so it got pushed aside and was out of everyone's mind overnight without being properly resolved
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06-09-2010, 09:53 PM
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welcome to politics and the american media.
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07-01-2010, 07:23 AM
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07-01-2010, 08:56 AM
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07-01-2010, 09:04 AM
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Valve spring issues is what I've heard. Toyota say that certain Lexus engines may stall as a result.....
I pity the mechanics that have to correct this issue. What.... no.... on second thought these mechanics have excellent job security. In other new, I think i'm gonna get certified to work on Toyotas. 
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07-01-2010, 10:06 AM
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Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
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07-01-2010, 10:30 AM
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well thats one way to get em to stop 
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07-06-2010, 05:09 PM
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/toy...all-2010-06-27
This was a 17000 car recall last week
Also, Canadian sales for toyota fall 14% while GM sales are up 54% with GM outselling toyota!
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2010/0...une-sales.html
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07-06-2010, 07:13 PM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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TBH I'm more surprised by the fact that you didn't post a yahoo link for once
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Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
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07-06-2010, 07:42 PM
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Oh sorry I got one here for you! 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota...65795.html?x=0
Apparently they knew about this problem 2 years ago and thought it was some microscopic particle, when really the problem was a design flaw haha fail.
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07-12-2010, 02:43 PM
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But but they're spending a million dollars an hour to get it right Give me a f'in break....
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07-13-2010, 08:52 AM
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They use the 3.5L motor across their product line. Why isn't cars such as the Highlander and RX350 recalled as well? I don't believe for a second that they get different manufacturers for their valve springs for different models utilizing the same engine
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07-17-2010, 09:45 AM
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Well toyota pulled all the black boxes from all the prius' in the accidents and it showed that no brake pedal was applied and the car was at WOT. Explain that one.....
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2010/...aused-crashes/
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07-17-2010, 10:17 AM
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"The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that the throttles were wide open and the brakes weren't engaged at the time of the crash,"
It doesnt say how many throttles were wide open out of the "dozens" that they tested. If two throttles were open out of 3-4 dozen cars... that doesnt mean much.
And which cars did they pull the black boxes from? Probably ones that they already knew were driver error from other evidence.
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07-17-2010, 10:20 AM
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Another thing the news "forgot" to mention that from 90% of the police reports from the deaths that they all had higher the legal limit blood alcohol level. im not defending toyota at all but it would be nice if the world gets the whole story...
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07-17-2010, 10:45 AM
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Another thing the news "forgot" to mention that from 90% of the police reports from the deaths that they all had higher the legal limit blood alcohol level. im not defending toyota at all but it would be nice if the world gets the whole story...
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90%? Any actual proof to back up that one?
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07-17-2010, 10:53 AM
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90%? Any actual proof to back up that one?
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Me not personally, Toyota has all the info from the police reports from the accidents. We we showed them when i had to go to toyota in West Caldwell.
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07-17-2010, 11:20 AM
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i think the bigger question is.. do the black boxes record the inputs of the driver or the actions of the car? in a perfect world those two things would be the same, and an engineer would not need to distinguish between them. However, nothing is perfect. If the car does not acknowledge a drivers input, are we sure the black box would? or is it just measuring say the throttle position sensor values... something to think about. The brake thing.. eh i dunno, but who knows anything with these electronics anymore. Maybe the brake pedal input sensors fail to read at WOT.. who knows.
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07-17-2010, 12:10 PM
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i think the bigger question is.. do the black boxes record the inputs of the driver or the actions of the car? in a perfect world those two things would be the same, and an engineer would not need to distinguish between them. However, nothing is perfect. If the car does not acknowledge a drivers input, are we sure the black box would? or is it just measuring say the throttle position sensor values... something to think about. The brake thing.. eh i dunno, but who knows anything with these electronics anymore. Maybe the brake pedal input sensors fail to read at WOT.. who knows.
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exactly wat i was thinking.....
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07-17-2010, 12:21 PM
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i think the bigger question is.. do the black boxes record the inputs of the driver or the actions of the car? in a perfect world those two things would be the same, and an engineer would not need to distinguish between them. However, nothing is perfect. If the car does not acknowledge a drivers input, are we sure the black box would? or is it just measuring say the throttle position sensor values... something to think about. The brake thing.. eh i dunno, but who knows anything with these electronics anymore. Maybe the brake pedal input sensors fail to read at WOT.. who knows.
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yep. The boxes prove nothing. If the car fails to register the driver input, it's still a failure by the car, it's just not recorded in the box. This is yet just another attempt by Toyota to try and clear their name.
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yep. The boxes prove nothing. If the car fails to register the driver input, it's still a failure by the car, it's just not recorded in the box. This is yet just another attempt by Toyota to try and clear their name.
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Then WTF is the point of it? I thought I had read somewhere that only the japanese had access/software to read the boxes.
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