Street Racing??

[NJSPEEDER]

Originally Posted by Squirrel

but i know i'd rather be racing a street car on an open highway instead of gettin freight trained by an 8 second bracket car on slicks/skinnies on the track

then go the track and hang in the street lanes or jsut set up races with your friends while you are there. al the track encourage people to grudge race each other and 99% of the people around you in the lanes will be more than happy to help you move around so you can run a friend or someone who called you out.

i believe i simply inquired as to why everything was deleted and why it wasnt allowed. everyone else turned it into a ***** session. and honestly Tim is one of the only people who responded in a mature way. so if the rest of you have nothing more to say then "if you dont like it find another board to post one" then just dont say anything at all. i never once said i was gonna stop posting did i? i believe i just asked for a reason as to why. couldnt putting something into the "Terms and Conditions" portion that everyone has to agree to solve some legal issues? (again if you dont have a real answer please just keep your mouth shut)

[NJSPEEDER]

not really. the terms of use is just that, you are agreeing to use the forums with in specific guidelines. where that ends is similar to what happened at Rider. there were rules against underage and pledge drinking, but no one was enforcing them.
basically, even if someone agrees to act a certain way, it is the fault of leadership if they don't.

if you get a chance to tim IM me on Smartass15864. ive been tryin to get ahold of you about something else too but you never seem to be online lol. also maybe you could think of a way to allow kill stories without having the liability issue because theyre enjoyable to read and i know i would spend more time on the site then i have.

[79T/A]

I have to say, this is quite an interesting topic for both sides. There have been some great arguments given for and against street racing. I'm the first to admit that I don't always obey the posted speed limit, but the days of street racing are far behind me. Maybe it's due to the fact that I'm a father now and the prospect of losing everything for a few seconds of adrenaline (Any money I have being spent to defend myself legally, not to mention the possibility of my own life). Maybe it's the fear of the unknown factors such as wildlife or small children running out onto the highway. Maybe it's the idea of having to live with severe consequences emotionally if I caused the death of another in a street race. Maybe I'm just friggin' old. Whatever it is, it scares the heel out of me.

I'll also admit that the few kill stories I have read do bring a chuckle and are entertaining, but they are also incriminating. It's a bit far fetched, but picture this: In one of these kill stories, a street racer admits to everyone reading that he or she outran another vehicle on a public highway in this fashion: "I was going home the other night and I blew away this red Honda!" What the poster doesn't realize is that the Honda driver ran a red light trying to catch up to him or her and slammed into a pedestrian. Witnesses say the driver was racing the poster's car. Maybe even a license plate is taken down. A friendly neighborhood police officer reads this post, puts two and two together and it becomes evidence. Now, BOTH racers are involved in vehicular homicide. Yeah, it's far fetched, but entirely possible. There ARE members of law enforcement posting up in here.

also maybe you could think of a way to allow kill stories without having the liability issue because theyre enjoyable to read and i know i would spend more time on the site then i have.

86Formula, you've stated that you want a mature answer to your question, and you've gotten it several times from Tim. What he said, plain and simple, is that in the terms and conditions, kill stories and other such street racing issues are not allowed. And then you still persist in saying that he should think of a way to present them? That's exactly the same as walking into someone's house and telling them what colors to paint the walls and what kind of carpets it should have. It really kind of does come down to enjoying this site for all the things it does have, and go elsewhere for what it doesn't.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

Generally, all I see here is a lot of talk from people who have nothing personally on the line here. I see people who want what they want - and how it potentially impacts others matters not. Nice. Go to a site the allows it, or better yet ante up for your own forum if you want to do it. Until then, those are the rules and the reasons behind them.

hit the nail smack-dab on the head.

Originally Posted by 79T/A

86Formula, you've stated that you want a mature answer to your question, and you've gotten it several times from Tim. What he said, plain and simple, is that in the terms and conditions, kill stories and other such street racing issues are not allowed. And then you still persist in saying that he should think of a way to present them? That's exactly the same as walking into someone's house and telling them what colors to paint the walls and what kind of carpets it should have. It really kind of does come down to enjoying this site for all the things it does have, and go elsewhere for what it doesn't.

i believe i asked if he could think of a way to allow people to post kill stories. im not telling him what to do. but am i not allowed to make a suggestion as to something i would like to see on the forums? or am i not entitled to my opinion anymore... i didnt demand anything nor did i say do it or im gonna leave. just a simple suggestion.

[WildBillyT]

86,

Unless a request is completely off the wall, we'll explore it to see if it's something we want to do or not. Contrary to what some members may lead you to believe we don't just turn up our noses like a bunch of kiddies and give a straight up "NO". We recognize that a community is nothing without its members, and it follows that we want people to be happy here. So in just about every case we will explore a suggestion.

With that in mind, if we come back and say no, after an initial explanation we should NOT have to parrot things back time and time again. If the answer is no, it's no. End of story until we say otherwise. The same goes for particular issues we do not want discussed on the forum. If it's not allowed then don't post it. If you have been reminded not to post something and you continually step on our nuts for whatever reason, expect a vacation from the forums for a little while.

I hope this makes things a bit more clear. Thanks for being mature in this discussion.