USA in the Confederations Cup

[Jersey Mike]

I was getting updates on the score while I was at work... Is there any place I can catch a replay of the game?

Props to USA for making it to 2nd place. Beating Spain & giving Brazil a run for their money.

[Jam]

=[ damn US

[procamaroz28]

wow i cant believe what i just saw...

[Ian]

Originally Posted by fire95bird

i also dont see any soccer players benching over 400lbs and squating over 500lbs. Put brian urlacher in the field and let him hit some of these guys. They wont be getting back up. Like i said soccer is good for what it is but dont take anything away from football. Just too totally different sports and difficult in their own right

if you put brian urlacher on the field, he probably wouldn't be able to catch any of them. likewise, if you put a soccer player in an NFL game in any position other than kicker/punter, he would get tossed around like a rag doll. both situations would be equally laughable.

Originally Posted by madness410

but just remember man...they lost to BRAZIL...brazil has been one of the best in soccer since the beginning of time

not to mention they also shut out undefeated Spain! no small task.

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by Ian

if you put brian urlacher on the field, he probably wouldn't be able to catch any of them. likewise, if you put a soccer player in an NFL game in any position other than kicker/punter, he would get tossed around like a rag doll. both situations would be equally laughable.

Very true

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by Frosty

...and put him on skates and get ready for some laughs..ANY of those "tough guys" in football wouldn't last one shift on skates.....what's your point?

Never said anything about hockey i was talking about soccer......

[BurninrubberGT]

Originally Posted by madness410

but just remember man...they lost to BRAZIL...brazil has been one of the best in soccer since the beginning of time

ya i know, they played great for 2 games and a half, but that second half was horrible and they looked like the old u.s. team which scares me....im not a big moral victory guy after playing in high school lol


and wes soccer players spend their time on the field practicing not in the weight room seeing who can lift more and shooting themselves up with steroids

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by fire95bird

Being hit in high school football is like falling out of a one story building. Being hit in college is like getting hit with sludgehammer. Being hit in professional football is like being in a car crash. Soccer is hard for what it is. But dont take anything away from football. i dont see any 350lb soccer players. You need a combo of speed and strength for football. Football is just different from soccer. Yes you get a break in football, but while your playing its full force. Being a lineman is pretty much being a sumo wrestler for 4 periods. Qbs have the entire defense wanting to send him to the hospital. RBs same thing

Try doing that without pads, and maybe a foam helmet. And don't mistake strength for overall athleticism.

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by BurninrubberGT

ya i know, they played great for 2 games and a half, but that second half was horrible and they looked like the old u.s. team which scares me....im not a big moral victory guy after playing in high school lol


and wes soccer players spend their time on the field practicing not in the weight room seeing who can lift more and shooting themselves up with steroids

Now a days more baseball players shoot up than NFL players lol

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Try doing that without pads, and maybe a foam helmet. And don't mistake strength for overall athleticism.

I never said anything about rugby....and being a QB isn't athletic? putting a ball in a receivers hands 40 yards away, or shooting it in between 3 defenders? what about when a LB reads the flow of the play and the RB and the QB then has to make the tackle? That's not athletic? I've prob said this 3 times but I'm not taking anything away from any sport im just saying don't take anything away from football

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by fire95bird

I never said anything about rugby....and being a QB isn't athletic? putting a ball in a receivers hands 40 yards away, or shooting it in between 3 defenders? what about when a LB reads the flow of the play and the RB and the QB then has to make the tackle? That's not athletic? I've prob said this 3 times but I'm not taking anything away from any sport im just saying don't take anything away from football

Football defiently requires a lot of skill and athleticism. But you brought in bench pressing and squatting. Just because somebody has power does not make them athletic. Truth be told there are some very athletic football players. Linebackers and Running Backs come to mine. However there are also fat slobs with a lot of strength and little else. Strength, speed, muscle stamina, cardio endurance- all those things add up to a good athlete.

The Rugby thing was a knee-jerk response to the fact that many football players consider their sport to be the pinnacle of physical demand. Not meant to be a shot at football, really.

[madness410]

lol i know the type bill..

i know a kid who has grapefruit size pecs, and cant touch his elbows together...and could probably run a mile in 15 or so minutes

[BigAls87Z28]

You would be surprised how fast these fat slobs are. Linemen are very very fast, and its amazing how quick they can be when you are 280-320lbs.
Worse is how fast the defensive ends are. And they can also bench a VW Bug. And they get paid on sacks. And you are in thier way.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

You would be surprised how fast these fat slobs are. Linemen are very very fast, and its amazing how quick they can be when you are 280-320lbs.
Worse is how fast the defensive ends are. And they can also bench a VW Bug. And they get paid on sacks. And you are in thier way.

I'm not surprised at all. With the weight that they squat they have a lot of explosive power coming from their legs. But they fall off fast. I've seen them train.

[Jersey Mike]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

You would be surprised how fast these fat slobs are. Linemen are very very fast, and its amazing how quick they can be when you are 280-320lbs.

That's like saying, "The Mitsubishi Eclipses are fast cars!" when you are in a Mazda3i.

[Frosty]

Al is right in a way, you'd be surprised how quick those guys can be once they get going.

[madness410]

Originally Posted by Jersey Mike

That's like saying, "The Mitsubishi Eclipses are fast cars!" when you are in a Mazda3i.

wait...what does that mean hahah

Originally Posted by Frosty

Al is right in a way, you'd be surprised how quick those guys can be once they get going.

yeah ive seen some big football guys train and they are quick for what they are

[Jersey Mike]

Originally Posted by madness410

wait...what does that mean hahah

A lineman may seem very very fast if you, yourself, are tipping the scale at 300llbs, and have to compete against him.
Ie: It's all about perspective. From the perspective of a 300llber, the train rushing forward at him may be approaching "Fast," but there's a difference between Fast & "Quick."

Not trying to take anything away from Football--(Hell, I watch more football than I do basketball & hockey combined)--Just pointing out the little things here and there that tip the "Grueling Scale" slightly in favor of "Futbol" rather than Football

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Football defiently requires a lot of skill and athleticism. But you brought in bench pressing and squatting. Just because somebody has power does not make them athletic. Truth be told there are some very athletic football players. Linebackers and Running Backs come to mine. However there are also fat slobs with a lot of strength and little else. Strength, speed, muscle stamina, cardio endurance- all those things add up to a good athlete.

The Rugby thing was a knee-jerk response to the fact that many football players consider their sport to be the pinnacle of physical demand. Not meant to be a shot at football, really.

Its all in good faith. Ya thats why i didnt mention the linemen lol if your born big you can just be a linemen. But you can't just run a 4.3 40 out of the womb, have amazing vision, and good hands. Its gotta be worked on and perfected. Much like drills with soccer. Im sure kids dont come out doing over head kicks, and jumping 3 feet in the air to do headers. I don't consider football to be the pinnacle of physical demand, i think rugby players are crazy as hell. everytime i think of rugby i think of monty phython lol

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

You would be surprised how fast these fat slobs are. Linemen are very very fast, and its amazing how quick they can be when you are 280-320lbs.
Worse is how fast the defensive ends are. And they can also bench a VW Bug. And they get paid on sacks. And you are in thier way.

Strahan is a small DE and hes 6'5 lol he wasnt the fastest or the strongest but he is one of the best. The DE for the texans, the rookie, hes a pretty sick linemen. Wouldnt wanna be in his way

[NastyEllEssWon]

rugby, soccer and hockey...... in that order are the most grueling sports...




rugby...everything soccer has to offer....tossed in with no pads brutal football

soccer...crazy running, never stopping, heart pumping makes me wanna die thinking about it

hockey...skating in multiple directions, handling pucks while dodging large speeding people trying to knock you down and still shoot the puck is pretty taxing



football is a rough sport...takes extreme athleticism...very few people can play football at a professional level but there are many breaks. even in high school football you still get a little bit to sit in a huddle and catch your breathe.




edit::: for what its worth....Justin Tuck is faster than strahan. i watched him run down tomlinson to save a touchdown when tomlinson was already 20 yards ahead....crazy


btw im an eagles fan

[fire95bird]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

btw im an eagles fan

Oh that explains everything

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by fire95bird

Oh that explains everything

put your team out of the playoffs last year

[fire95bird]

im not a giants fan. i hate the giants lol im a pats fan

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by fire95bird

im not a giants fan. i hate the giants lol im a pats fan

even funnier! cheats for years..wins 3 superbowls. get caught cheating, go undefeated and lose the superbowl.



nice one.