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MonmouthCtyAntz · 08-22-2009, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bcozzi71

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb/crea.html

thats what i take. Lasts a pretty long time. One of the cheaper sups I take, Besides Beta Alanine that stuff is awesome and dirt cheap.

Yea that companys been around awhile...

LS1Hawk · 08-22-2009, 10:59 AM

What's the best form of creatine to take: the powder, capsules, or wafers that you chew?

Squirrel · 08-22-2009, 11:47 AM

never seen wafers, but i find the powder the easiest, the caps are an unneeded extra expense, as long as you dont use CEE creatine really doesnt taste like anything

Bcozzi71 · 08-22-2009, 10:12 PM

yea I like the power as well. I have made my own caps though using this machine thing my friend let me play around with.

WildBillyT · 08-22-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk

What's the best form of creatine to take: the powder, capsules, or wafers that you chew?

For what it's worth, I've always believed that a liquid is more easily assimilated than pills, so I always went/go powder.

jims69camaro · 08-23-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

whats a better alternative to creatine?
what should I take to aid in fat burn/muscle build?

creatine is found naturally in red meat.

i used ephedrine hydrochloride in combination with caffeine and aspirin. the ratio is 1:12:10, ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. that's if you can find E HCI on the market. i used to buy it by the box at 7-11, since those bastards could give a ***** if you killed yourself. other, more compassionate people, probably wouldn't sell it (perhaps for fear of a lawsuit). it's not for the faint of heart - it's very strong stuff. staying hydrated is almost impossible when taking it, but if you don't try (2+ gallons of water per day) then you could end up a statistic instead of cutting weight.

as far as building muscle, there is no pill that will do that. this is why people abuse steroids, since it is really the only way to trick your body into making more muscle. the only tried and true method is: workout, eat, rest; repeat. nothing else will make muscle for you. sure, there are more things out there that claim to help, and you might even find anecdotal evidence to support that, but working the muscle is the only way to make it grow.

LS1Hawk · 08-23-2009, 08:01 AM

Yeah, I saw at GNC they have a chewable form of creatine http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=41912&catid=39213

LTb1ow · 08-23-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

creatine is found naturally in red meat.

i used ephedrine hydrochloride in combination with caffeine and aspirin. the ratio is 1:12:10, ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. that's if you can find E HCI on the market. i used to buy it by the box at 7-11, since those bastards could give a ***** if you killed yourself. other, more compassionate people, probably wouldn't sell it (perhaps for fear of a lawsuit). it's not for the faint of heart - it's very strong stuff. staying hydrated is almost impossible when taking it, but if you don't try (2+ gallons of water per day) then you could end up a statistic instead of cutting weight.

as far as building muscle, there is no pill that will do that. this is why people abuse steroids, since it is really the only way to trick your body into making more muscle. the only tried and true method is: workout, eat, rest; repeat. nothing else will make muscle for you. sure, there are more things out there that claim to help, and you might even find anecdotal evidence to support that, but working the muscle is the only way to make it grow.

Yuck... thats a bad combo Jim.... your heart probably loves you....

Squirrel · 08-23-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

Yuck... thats a bad combo Jim.... your heart probably loves you....

eh... the ECA stack is a proven way to shed some weight, clen is better though

LS1Hawk · 08-24-2009, 03:57 PM

If you take the normal 5g of creatine a day, how much water should you drink?

WildBillyT · 08-24-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk

If you take the normal 5g of creatine a day, how much water should you drink?

1 gallon minimum.

LS1Hawk · 08-24-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

1 gallon minimum.

Wow, who has time to drink 128 ounces of water a day? Not to mention the time that you'll be spending peeing it all out.

LTb1ow · 08-24-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk

Wow, who has time to drink 128 ounces of water a day? Not to mention the time that you'll be spending peeing it all out.

I do, nalgene bottle is 38oz, shoot for at least four of them throughout the day minimum.

WildBillyT · 08-24-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

I do, nalgene bottle is 38oz, shoot for at least four of them throughout the day minimum.

I do too. Two during the day, one during my workout, one at night. And this doesn't count other drinks during the day.

Squirrel · 08-24-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk

Wow, who has time to drink 128 ounces of water a day? Not to mention the time that you'll be spending peeing it all out.

you serious?... i drink a half gallon jug during my workout and refill it before im done...

jims69camaro · 08-25-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel

you serious?... i drink a half gallon jug during my workout and refill it before im done...

yeah, a half a gallon during workout is a good amount.

you need a gallon per day just to stay hydrated. you are probably taking in a gallon of various liquids anyway, so just trade that can of soda for a quart of water. with the amount you sweat because of the heat, you'd need an extra half to a full gallon.

have you ever been really hot, then drank a gatorade or quart of water and started sweating bullets? it's because you are dehydrated and your body was saving what little extra water you had for internal functions. as soon as your body realizes that the drought is over, it knows it's ok to use some for the sweat glands.

fooling around with not drinking enough fluids in a heat wave is one sure way to eff up your body. it can cause problems with your kidneys and bladder (lack of water to piss several times a day is an invitation to a urinary tract infection) and has been linked to deaths (serious dehydration by pro bodybuilders right before a show, using diuretics).

it's not something to fool around with and is so easy to get right that you'd be stupid to ignore it. now, who's having trouble finding the time to drink 128 ounces of water...?

LTb1ow · 08-25-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

yeah, a half a gallon during workout is a good amount.

you need a gallon per day just to stay hydrated. you are probably taking in a gallon of various liquids anyway, so just trade that can of soda for a quart of water. with the amount you sweat because of the heat, you'd need an extra half to a full gallon.

have you ever been really hot, then drank a gatorade or quart of water and started sweating bullets? it's because you are dehydrated and your body was saving what little extra water you had for internal functions. as soon as your body realizes that the drought is over, it knows it's ok to use some for the sweat glands.

fooling around with not drinking enough fluids in a heat wave is one sure way to eff up your body. it can cause problems with your kidneys and bladder (lack of water to piss several times a day is an invitation to a urinary tract infection) and has been linked to deaths (serious dehydration by pro bodybuilders right before a show, using diuretics).

it's not something to fool around with and is so easy to get right that you'd be stupid to ignore it. now, who's having trouble finding the time to drink 128 ounces of water...?

Which only retains more salt and decrease muscle mass... bad move to stop drinking water... water is good.

bubba428 · 08-25-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

creatine is found naturally in red meat.

i used ephedrine hydrochloride in combination with caffeine and aspirin. the ratio is 1:12:10, ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. that's if you can find E HCI on the market. i used to buy it by the box at 7-11, since those bastards could give a ***** if you killed yourself. other, more compassionate people, probably wouldn't sell it (perhaps for fear of a lawsuit). it's not for the faint of heart - it's very strong stuff. staying hydrated is almost impossible when taking it, but if you don't try (2+ gallons of water per day) then you could end up a statistic instead of cutting weight.

as far as building muscle, there is no pill that will do that. this is why people abuse steroids, since it is really the only way to trick your body into making more muscle. the only tried and true method is: workout, eat, rest; repeat. nothing else will make muscle for you. sure, there are more things out there that claim to help, and you might even find anecdotal evidence to support that, but working the muscle is the only way to make it grow.

no no no...I'm not that retarded to think I can just take some stuff and sit on my ass and it'll work. I'm just looking for faster results. I've already started lifting again, and my diets has been readjusted for months.

LTb1ow · 08-25-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

no no no...I'm not that retarded to think I can just take some stuff and sit on my ass and it'll work. I'm just looking for faster results. I've already started lifting again, and my diets has been readjusted for months.

IMO, fast results = not good for your body.

bubba428 · 08-25-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

IMO, fast results = not good for your body.

Again I don't mean overnight changes...when I was younger I used to do very high weight lifts at very medium reps, and eat TONS of protien based foods (basically steak and salad every night) my shoulders, biceps, triceps, neck thighs and waist ended up building faster than they should have. actually stretched my skin so fast I was waking up with purple stretches and getting sunburn in matters of 10min exposure. Not to ecstatic on doing that again.

LTb1ow · 08-25-2009, 02:19 PM

Exercise, diet, and sleep. Simple.

WildBillyT · 08-25-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

Again I don't mean overnight changes...when I was younger I used to do very high weight lifts at very medium reps, and eat TONS of protien based foods (basically steak and salad every night) my shoulders, biceps, triceps, neck thighs and waist ended up building faster than they should have. actually stretched my skin so fast I was waking up with purple stretches and getting sunburn in matters of 10min exposure. Not to ecstatic on doing that again.

Stretch marks in places other than your gut are badges of honor.

LS1Hawk · 08-25-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel

you serious?... i drink a half gallon jug during my workout and refill it before im done...

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

you need a gallon per day just to stay hydrated. you are probably taking in a gallon of various liquids anyway, so just trade that can of soda for a quart of water. with the amount you sweat because of the heat, you'd need an extra half to a full gallon.

Yes. I realize that I'm probably taking in a gallon or so normally through out the day. I guess my question was more in addition to what you normally drink. I don't drink any soda, just water and juices. Normally, I drink about 32oz of water during a workout and I'm fine. So if I take 5g of creatine, it sounds like I would need to take an extra gallon of water throughout the day in addition to what i normally drink.

bubba428 · 08-25-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Stretch marks in places other than your gut are badges of honor.

um ok?

MonmouthCtyAntz · 08-25-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

Yuck... thats a bad combo Jim.... your heart probably loves you....

Straight from someone that has no clue what there talking about...eca is fine, though theres really no need for the aspirin. When not abused its safe and effective.