New Daily Driver....

[unstable bob gable]

Good show, Zeek my man. But I hope ya have a flame suit, 'cause the next volley of poo poo la la will prolly be heading your way...

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

The only issue I had with the rental (besides that it was very slow, which is to be expected out of an econo-rental) was the HUGE blind spots. I am taller than the average person, and usually that helps when trying to see what's near the driver's side 1/4 panel - not in the 2 door cobalt....I couldn't see jack. Very big issue for me. Otherwise it seemed like a solid little car, and got good milage (about 32 mpg, and I drove it like a rental )

- Justin

my gf has the same civic as 1_Hot_SOM_WS6 just bought and i felt that the blind spots in it were huge as well. but the difference is 2dr v. 4dr

[Mike]

Originally Posted by zeek

umm if your afraid to put miles on a car then why own it ? it would make more sense to sell that honduh and put any and all $ into your firebird instead of making payments on the honduh because in the long wrong you will have spent more $ on that pos then you would have on your firebird

so everyone on here with daily drivers should sell them and drive their race/show/nice weather/fun cars every day? that makes no sence at all.

once again, i dont dissagree with people wanting to buy american, and im not saying anything about what is better, im saying that people shouldnt come into her thread and tell her she should have bought somthing else with her money.

but that last comment above just dosent work on an enthusiast site, id say about 80+% of the people here have a daily driver too keep miles off their fbodys

[Rich189]

im all for buying american but.... wow i didnt relize someone posting up pics of a dd would cause this reaction.... nice car 1hotsom like some others said not my taste (i find that they look out of proportion) but long as u like it and your happy who the hell cares what everyone else thinks

[Rich189]

Originally Posted by nj85z28

all i have to say, is that you should have expected this, posting that on a Camaro specific board.

oh and i just wanted to quote ya because it really seems to get your panties in a bunch when people do that

[bandit88]

Originally Posted by 1_Hot_SOM_WS6

Thats ok....in a few years when ur American DD is broke down with its common issues....my Jap DD will still be running stong like the day I got it .

My DD has 269xxx on it........ and She's no Jap! Its a Chevy!!!!
the only thing wrong with it right now is no air conditioning and a cat eff low bank 1 code

it is a nice car Kels!!!!!!! Its pretty shiny new lol

[LS1Hawk]

It's amazing that most of this argument stems from when a guy by the name of Ralph Nader UNFAIRLY attacked an American car that was ahead of its time and could have revolutionized the US auto market for years to come, the Corvair.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by LS1Hawk

Ralph Nader UNFAIRLY attacked the Corvair.

he built his whole career around that argument. that was what gave the japs the foothold in our car market and it snowballed from there. good call.

[unstable bob gable]

Originally Posted by bandit88

My DD has 269xxx on it........ and She's no Jap! Its a Chevy!!!!

I say that statement speaks for itself.

[mtnhopper1]

The only car I own is posted in the sig.

Three generations of my family work(ed) for Chrysler.

I grew up in Detroit.

That being said, the global auto industry is completely different than it was even 15 years ago. The whole US vs Imports argument is not as clear-cut because US, Asian, nad Euro carmakers have realized that the are all better served to jump in bed together. If you read the corporate holdings of the automakers, US and Import alike, and read the nationalities of the officers/directors of those companies, you'd all realize that this entire discussion is a bit dated and irrelevant.

I gave up on this conversation in 1999 when my father bought a brand new Ford (Mazda) Ranger to park in the garage between his Vette and his '37 Ford coupe.

Here is a quote from the GM corporate website:

"Fostering Global Partnerships and Consumer Relationships
GM is the majority shareholder in GM Daewoo Auto & Technology Co. of South Korea, and has product, powertrain and purchasing collaborations with Suzuki Motor Corp. and Isuzu Motors Ltd. of Japan. GM also has advanced technology collaborations with DaimlerChrysler AG and BMW AG of Germany and Toyota Motor Corp. of Japan, and vehicle manufacturing ventures with several automakers around the world, including Toyota, Suzuki, Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp. of China, AVTOVAZ of Russia and Renault SA of France."

So if you want to make the "profits" argument, you can buy your next Daewoo without guilt because the profits are going to its majority shareholder, GM; the same GM that built your Camaro.

You try and figure out who to root for. I sure can't.

[Ant'sWS6]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

she has an f-body, and now she bought a daily driver so that she can treat the ws6 the way it should be treated......who cares what that car is, half this forum has import or non chevy daily drivers. and almost that many DONT EVEN OWN CAMAROS OR FIREBIRDS, no one tells them to go away

LOL....so true!!!

Congrats girl....good luck with the new DD...We'll have to go out with the crew for some funnel cake to celebrate...LOL

[IROCdan330]

ok all i want to know is what the monthly payment on the new honda is...

im in the market for a DD as 18 mpg ain't cuttin it with a 97 mile round trip, daily...

[Ant'sWS6]

Originally Posted by IROCdan330

ok all i want to know is what the monthly payment on the new honda is...

im in the market for a DD as 18 mpg ain't cuttin it with a 97 mile round trip, daily...

Holy crap dude....97 miles!!! I feel your pain...almost 119 miles round trip from the beach to north jersey..in a dodge dakota...lol.

[Ant'sWS6]

I know everyone's raggin on her for buy the Honda....but don't forget...most of our F-bodies were built were?...In Canada....employing Canadians which means that more American workers got paid to build her car then our beloved F-bodies....so those of you calling her a hypocrite should look in the mirror.

[AliWantsNss]

Congrats on the new DD.

I was so close to leasing a 3 series BMW last year when I got my G6, but felt that because I am a GM dealer employee, and hear so much about the things being discussed, I would have a little brand loyalty. Ive had it about a year, and have had no issues. It took a little while to break in, but now it gets pretty good fuel economy for a car with more than 250hp.

I was more concerned about having something I would enjoy driving everyday than fuel economy. I can drive my Z28 when I want to torture myself. LOL

[AliWantsNss]

Originally Posted by Ant'sWS6

I know everyone's raggin on her for buy the Honda....but don't forget...most of our F-bodies were built were?...In Canada....employing Canadians which means that more American workers got paid to build her car then our beloved F-bodies....so those of you calling her a hypocrite should look in the mirror.

The long and short of it is that GM is an American company. The profits regardless of where the car is built comes back here. The Jap companies are pulling the wool over peoples eyes with the Made in the USA BS. The money doesn't stay here, and our own government cuts them huge tax breaks to run the factories here.

Im so sick of this global economy BS, and this goes way beyond cars. Look at the toy recall! Or all the food scares! Its time that people start making the effort to keep it our money here. It might cost us a couple more bucks, but in the long run it would be worthwhile.

[unstable bob gable]

Originally Posted by mtnhopper1

I gave up on this conversation in 1999 when my father bought a brand new Ford (Mazda) Ranger to park in the garage between his Vette and his '37 Ford coupe.

My wife's 98 Ranger was built in Edison NJ. I call that an American vehicle built in America...

[Mike]

the long and short of it is that you guys are just being preachy, you have repeated your opinions over the four pages of this thread over and over. you say the company profits come back to here, but in fact they only go to gm/ford/etc executives and in a small way, shareholders. its not like they are pumping their millions into anything other than making more millions.....

no matter what brand of car american factories are building, they are employing american labor. which means americans are getting paid and in turn going shopping and making purchases in america with their money.....so in reality they ARE supporting american economey

[Ant'sWS6]

Originally Posted by AliWantsNss

The long and short of it is that GM is an American company. The profits regardless of where the car is built comes back here. The Jap companies are pulling the wool over peoples eyes with the Made in the USA BS. The money doesn't stay here, and our own government cuts them huge tax breaks to run the factories here.

Im so sick of this global economy BS, and this goes way beyond cars. Look at the toy recall! Or all the food scares! Its time that people start making the effort to keep it our money here. It might cost us a couple more bucks, but in the long run it would be worthwhile.

Nah dude...I agree but some of the arguments here go back to who's gettin paid to build the cars (the workers end)....and the point is that our F-bodies which this club and site are built around weren't built by american workers....now I'm not saying buy japanese or european or whatever...I'm all for buyin american....actually may end up trading in the dakota for a G6 or Cobalt...dakota+119 miles round trip = lots of $$$$ for gas...LOL.

and besides....it's not like she's the only one on this board that owns a "foreign" car...hell some people don't even own (or have never owned) an F-Body but are regulars here.....I'm sticken up for her because she's my friend but also because like all these people that feel the need to hammer her with their opinion because it's their right to do so....she has just as much right to buy the Honda...if they don't like it they should buy her an american car.

[Ant'sWS6]

Originally Posted by unstable bob gable

My wife's 98 Ranger was built in Edison NJ. I call that an American vehicle built in America...

And I'll bet that Ranger is built with half Mazda parts....just like my 93 Ford Probe GT was.

[Mike]

all this force feeding of opinion is no different than a politial or religous thread that would have been shut down 3 pages ago, no one wants to hear preaching no matter what side your on

jim made a point to call us "younger generations" uneducated.....in turn i can say he and some others are close-minded....
tomato-tomato
potato-potato

[Ant'sWS6]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

all this force feeding of opinion is no different than a politial or religous thread that would have been shut down 3 pages ago, no one wants to hear preaching no matter what side your on

LOL..that's true...I'll shut myself up now.

Congrats again Kels....she's purdy!!!!

[AliWantsNss]

I dont think you guys realize that at least for me, I am way more concerned about the extreme lack of export to import ratio. Cars are only a fraction of that. Just for giggles try to go one day buying only products that are made in the USA by an American company. Its impossible

[Mike]

ant you werent being preachy if you go back and read the whole thread you will see what i meant

[unstable bob gable]

Ya wanna know what really burns my azz maybe even more than the actual purchasing of the import? It's the callous attitiudes taken up by the so called "American" purchaser. It's like people take joy in the fact that imports are taking over. They love taking pot shots at American vehicles, and think it's all a big fukkin' joke that the American auto industry is in the toliet. Whatever happened to American pride and wanting "the home team to win?" Used to be a person made a few bux they would go buy a Caddy or Lincoln. Now it's all BMW or Benz BS, or the BMW or Benz "wanna bees"
Lexus and Infinity. And doesn't WW II mean anything to anybody? You know, Pearl Harbor and Auschwitz? I can't see sending my hard earned American bux to countries that wanted our heads on a platter less than 70 years ago. You might laugh, but ask your parents or grandparents about how close we almost came to becoming slaves to these countries. Maybe your grandparents didn't even make it this far because of them. And don't think those countries aren't laughing at us, all the way to the bank. Because of the financial situation. We beat them in a war with guns and bombs, but they are now killing us financially. So, in the end, we lose because of ourselves. Pretty sad. Well, at least I can pride myself with the fact that I grew up in a good automotive era, in a family that never even considered not buying American. And I own some of the coolest American cars ever produced. So, when they come to take my toys away, or the only option is to drive an Import, I guess the gun will go in the mouth. But at least I would have died believing in my country...