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10-12-2012, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner
Wait, you had the motor out of the car and didn't pull the heads?!?!
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can you get the valves out through the bottom?
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10-12-2012, 11:43 AM
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:face palm: my valves hit my piston hard enough to bust a rocker but the valves are still good.....the fail is strong with this one. So you ran a motor with 7 cylinders for 50k no wonder your having motor issues.
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10-12-2012, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
can you get the valves out through the bottom?
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Yes.
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10-12-2012, 12:42 PM
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Slide hammer would do the trick, no?
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10-12-2012, 02:22 PM
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1" drive impact, too.
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10-12-2012, 03:10 PM
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it wasnt a dead cylinder.
just a weak one.
remember i dont have money like most of you.
i could t afford to pull the heads and get new valve 50k miles ago.
i ran it. it ran well yes a noise started so ripped apart the bottom end (thinking it was that) and replaced bearings and slapped some arp studs on rods and mains and a few more things to freshen the motor up.
i wasnt intending on pulling the heads for this job.
but thats the only possible thing that can be the problem now.
and another reason i didnt pull them out of car and spent 300$ on lifters and valves was bc of the damn studs.
arp is fubekdndk expensive
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10-12-2012, 03:22 PM
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So instead of doing it right the first time, you wasted time and money fixing something that wasn't broken to only waste more time and money to correct the previously known issue? Sounds like you've got money to burn bro
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10-12-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
So instead of doing it right the first time, you wasted time and money fixing something that wasn't broken to only waste more time and money to correct the previously known issue? Sounds like you've got money to burn bro
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sorry i wish i knew you.
how about you comeover and ill start her up for you and maybe you can use your fairy powers and tell me what is exactly wrong, whats making the rubbing noise which valve on which piston or if its a bent push rod or maybe a lifter.
thanks for your answer though still made me 430 on 83% tps and a weak cylinder. got me 50kmiles and 28mpg.
took a risk came out well.
now i will do it right.
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10-12-2012, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
So instead of doing it right the first time, you wasted time and money fixing something that wasn't broken to only waste more time and money to correct the previously known issue? Sounds like you've got money to burn bro
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I wasn't going to say it, but this sums up my feelings.
Got no money, so you did a heads/cam/intake job and run the car very hard?
I dunno man....
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10-12-2012, 05:21 PM
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as stated in a previous thread i bought the car withthe heads and ms3 running.
then the ptv broke and thats when i changed the cam.
this is irrelevant to this thread.
it was either pay to change valves leave the cam and let it happen again(yes i know i could of done many other things for clearance but at the time i didnt know anything)
so i got the cam.
anyways irrelevant.
so ill just fix it now.
end of story
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10-12-2012, 05:25 PM
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Proper diagnosis would save money. Stop taking offense to good advice
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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10-12-2012, 05:42 PM
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Piston to valve clearance cannot 'break.' It is not a part, it is a measured clearance.
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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10-12-2012, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
So instead of doing it right the first time, you wasted time and money fixing something that wasn't broken to only waste more time and money to correct the previously known issue? Sounds like you've got money to burn bro
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Piston to valve clearance cannot 'break.' It is not a part, it is a measured clearance.
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no one said it was a part.
i had .022 ptv i "broke" into an unsafe distance of ptv.
stop taking the words so literral.
jumping on the bandwagon offending me.
i misdiagnosed it big deal. i said i didnt have the money at the time. im not trying to dump too much into this one as i prefer to build the iron block out of the escalade.
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10-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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dont take offense to it bc they dont know many variables like how far you drive daily what grind your came has whats done to your heads and so on
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10-12-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rickyd13
dont take offense to it bc they dont know many variables like how far you drive daily what grind your came has whats done to your heads and so on
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None of that has any relevance to pieces of the engine making contact when they shouldn't
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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10-12-2012, 06:33 PM
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lets se if your heads are milled down they will sit lower than of they are not causing your valves to be closer to your heads and more prone to contact so again unless you know the exact specs pf the work done you shouldnt make comments and agrivate someone who has enough problems ohh yeah amd like i pointed out the work done is relevant to the contact
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10-12-2012, 06:40 PM
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This thread should become a sticky.
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10-12-2012, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WSex
sorry i wish i knew you.
how about you comeover and ill start her up for you and maybe you can use your fairy powers and tell me what is exactly wrong, whats making the rubbing noise which valve on which piston or if its a bent push rod or maybe a lifter.
thanks for your answer though still made me 430 on 83% tps and a weak cylinder. got me 50kmiles and 28mpg.
took a risk came out well.
now i will do it right.
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What's it trap in the 1/4?
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10-12-2012, 06:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyd13
lets se if your heads are milled down they will sit lower than of they are not causing your valves to be closer to your heads and more prone to contact so again unless you know the exact specs pf the work done you shouldnt make comments and agrivate someone who has enough problems ohh yeah amd like i pointed out the work done is relevant to the contact
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If you have the heads milled you change the parts associated to prevent contact. Milling the heads doesn't make contact ok.
When someone makes a thread and for 5 pages ignores the advice of experienced people and continues to blindly change parts it is aggrivating to everyone else
You were doing so well lately
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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10-12-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by grazi
This thread should become a sticky.
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Or locked
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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10-12-2012, 07:04 PM
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and as he said he didnt have money at the time some parts may have been over looked
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10-12-2012, 07:11 PM
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Blindly dicking with things is a good way to *waste* money.
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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10-12-2012, 07:27 PM
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and as he said he didnt have money at the time some parts may have been over looked
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Just stop. You are explaining exactly how not to do things on a budget
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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10-12-2012, 07:34 PM
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and isn't that what hapend though
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10-12-2012, 10:10 PM
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never tracked.
and i did take advice took the advice that doing an in car bearing job was stupid and hard and a waste of time. ive taken plenty advice.
im glad i did that bottom end what a great bad call.
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