WW3?

[johnjzjz]

and i just now after thinking about it can answer, -- i had the privilege of meeting a WW 1 foot solder in a VA hospital his face was almost burnt off and he had a buzzer to talk they removed his voice box don't know if you even know what that device is, don't talk about stuff you know nothing about, and yes all weapons are WWD's if used correctly, now i will go see if you have anything to add worth reading jz

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by jola

Tsar, all he did was call you sonny. Respect isn't something given to me or you, since we are only 19 or 20. People often see us as immature and hot-blooded. Don't reinforce the stereotype, just debate the issue. You have some valid points.

Translate it in my language and it becomes disrespectful. I dont give anyone respect based on their age or anything they did, if they act like a dick i will act accordingly. I have plenty of family members who has been in military including WW2, Afgan war, and Chechnya yet they know how to act and dont stick "heroism" in other peoples faces!

[Slow 88]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

and i just now after thinking about it can answer, -- i had the privilege of meeting a WW 1 foot solder in a VA hospital his face was almost burnt off and he had a buzzer to talk they removed his voice box don't know if you even know what that device is, don't talk about stuff you know nothing about, and yes all weapons are WWD's if used correctly, now i will go see if you have anything to add worth reading jz

Dude, I respect that you are a Vet but c'mon you can't be honest in saying that we are in a war over there....We have been there for over 3yrs and all they did was kill Bin Ladin's #1 man and NOT BIN himself, oh and they tore up all of Saddam's palaces woooooooppppppeeeeeeeedddddddddaaaaaadddddoooooooo ooooo!!! If we are to occupy a country we should be in IRAN because they are a serious threat to us as a country.....And the minute we leave Iraq, Iran we be marching in and trying to take it over mark my words!! Also THERE WERE NO WMD IN IRAQ!! So, shane and john stop saying that there was thank you..

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

and i just now after thinking about it can answer, -- i had the privilege of meeting a WW 1 foot solder in a VA hospital his face was almost burnt off and he had a buzzer to talk they removed his voice box don't know if you even know what that device is, don't talk about stuff you know nothing about, and yes all weapons are WWD's if used correctly, now i will go see if you have anything to add worth reading jz

Are you kidding me? Just because im 44 year younger then you doesnt mean im clueless. I work with old people everyday, ive seen more people use those devices in one day then you'll see in the next decade. I can go on and on but its pointless...


So you answer to my question was to invade every single country that was on the list? yea that's a great answer. You know at some point the world will get sick of you invading other countries with false facts, and you might become a second Germany. And yes im aware of "your most powerful military in the world" but you know what? history repeats itself, and if you look at it every great super power has grumbled to enemy that was much smaller, and to a naked eye wasn't really a threat at the time...

[Slow 88]

Here is good link for shane and john

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/12/wmd.search/

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Are you kidding me? Just because im 44 year younger then you doesn't mean I'm clueless. I work with old people everyday, Ive seen more people use those devices in one day then you'll see in the next decade. I can go on and on but its pointless...


So you answer to my question was to invade every single country that was on the list? yea that's a great answer. You know at some point the world will get sick of you invading other countries with false facts, and you might become a second Germany. And yes I'm aware of "your most powerful military in the world" but you know what? history repeats itself, and if you look at it every great super power has grumbled to enemy that was much smaller, and to a naked eye wasn't really a threat at the time...

OK lets get away from pointing a finger, we have in the gov who we have and right country or not to invade, what i got from it was ---why irak --was a stepping stone first remove the dick Saddam than secure the oil fields right or wrong we use lots of oil in the USA and fighting a war with out it, another topic is why we need so much, some have said they the Arab states will run out some day, well thats the same as putting you head in the sand as they shoot at you make believe it didn't happen, this war we are in is going to be close combat, you need ready supplies close to the war zone, we own the Sky's so we can use IRAk as a staging point for Iran, who might be next, cant do it from Europe need to be right their ????? agree ??? up front and personal is what this deal is all about, and the reason is the bad guys are intermixed with the people, not by any accident, they want it that way so we have to come and get them, the people are trapped if they try to leave everyone knows and they are killed so look at it this way just for a second how far off am i or how ????//// tell me jz

[Slow 88]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

OK lets get away from pointing a finger, we have in the gov who we have and right country or not to invade, what i got from it was ---why irak --was a stepping stone first remove the dick Saddam than secure the oil fields right or wrong we use lots of oil in the USA and fighting a war with out it, another topic is why we need so much, some have said they the Arab states will run out some day, well thats the same as putting you head in the sand as they shoot at you make believe it didn't happen, this war we are in is going to be close combat, you need ready supplies close to the war zone, we own the Sky's so we can use IRAk as a staging point for Iran, who might be next, cant do it from Europe need to be right their ????? agree ??? up front and personal is what this deal is all about, and the reason is the bad guys are intermixed with the people, not by any accident, they want it that way so we have to come and get them, the people are trapped if they try to leave everyone knows and they are killed so look at it this way just for a second how far off am i or how ????//// tell me jz

Way Off! Also, I don't know if you have checked lately but our oil prices are at an all time high go figure...

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Slow 88

Way Off! Also, I don't know if you have checked lately but our oil prices are at an all time high go figure...

So enlighten me the spotted owls were part of the reason we stopped drilling, and became Dependant on foreign oil show me the way dude i will admit i am wrong when i am ----- please enlighten me ----- jz

[Slow 88]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

So enlighten me the spotted owls were part of the reason we stopped drilling, and became Dependant on foreign oil show me the way dude i will admit i am wrong when i am ----- please enlighten me ----- jz

Your telling me it's more because we can't drill here in the USA? Well, the prices weren't too bad before we went to war (I use the term war loosely)...Also, you said that we are securing the oil fields so why is gas so high there Cap? Enlighten me (please)

Jim

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Slow 88

Your telling me it's more because we can't drill here in the USA? Well, the prices weren't too bad before we went to war (I use the term war loosely)...Also, you said that we are securing the oil fields so why is gas so high there Cap? Enlighten me (please)

Jim

The USA does not take anything from another country for nothing and yes the gas prices are a crime , but we are a capitalist society are we not --entrepreneurship is what drives the USA -- IE bill gates, trump, and thousands of others and yes the oil company exes are raping the public, but capitalism is our way of life is it not, you have the right to make as much money as you can no one is stopping you or is it the oil company's don't have that right, well that what the revolution was fought about, i don't like it either but its the way we as a people do business, or have i lost something so tell me weir am i going wrong ?????/ jz

[Slow 88]

Wow!!! Well said, "rolls eyes" Your boy Bush stated that we would basically have our way with the oil refineries over there so our import costs of the barrel of oil would be cheaper for the American public do you recall? But George Bush is a crook and is waisting OUR money for a sensless war and reaping the benefits with all of his Oil Exec buddies.... Well, I guess I am in a small group that doesn't want to be held down by the wealthy people because the gap is only getting bigger between the upper and middle classes.... The reason why I say that is because we are so far in debt and WE the little people are going to pay!!! We the little people don't have assets that the wealthy have and or the write offs that they do....So why the rich get richer the poorer get well you know!!

[shane27]

Originally Posted by Slow 88

Here is good link for shane and john

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/12/wmd.search/

Wednesday, January 12, 2005

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by Slow 88

Wow!!! Well said, "rolls eyes" Your boy Bush stated that we would basically have our way with the oil refineries over there so our import costs of the barrel of oil would be cheaper for the American public do you recall? But George Bush is a crook and is waisting OUR money for a sensless war and reaping the benefits with all of his Oil Exec buddies.... Well, I guess I am in a small group that doesn't want to be held down by the wealthy people because the gap is only getting bigger between the upper and middle classes.... The reason why I say that is because we are so far in debt and WE the little people are going to pay!!! We the little people don't have assets that the wealthy have and or the write offs that they do....So why the rich get richer the poorer get well you know!!

i guess you dident get the memo, its a free country you can be as broke as you want to be as well, i hope you like dry dog food, its all that your going to be able to afford in the future, shame all that schooling and you are wining poor me i am poor look i have nothing WOW get a grip dude no ones keeping you poor but you ( YOU ) only have you to blame for your life no one else except for of course i know its bushes fault --- i do not agree with a lot of what has gone on dude, but respect for the office of the presedent is too much to ask from someone who is an american in this country is excruciating, shame on you -- the liberal teachers have taught you well, when you dont have the answer blame someone on the right, not the system we all have to deal with ---- WOW i am impressed you will end up with nothing --- jz

[johnjzjz]

Wow!!! Well said, "rolls eyes" Your boy Bush stated that we would basically have our way with the oil refineries over there so our import costs of the barrel of oil would be cheaper for the American public do you recall? But George Bush is a crook and is waisting OUR money for a sensless war and reaping the benefits with all of his Oil Exec


almost forgot we need to fix the problem in IRAK first but you missed that part as well jz

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by shane27

Wednesday, January 12, 2005

CNN has the same addenda as the NY Times they would rather see the USA end its life than print any truth and what the times did with the money trail goes to point but the left will never see it its called ( Absence of Mlice ) jz

[Slow 88]

Originally Posted by shane27

Wednesday, January 12, 2005

AND?

[Slow 88]

Originally Posted by johnjzjz

Wow!!! Well said, "rolls eyes" Your boy Bush stated that we would basically have our way with the oil refineries over there so our import costs of the barrel of oil would be cheaper for the American public do you recall? But George Bush is a crook and is waisting OUR money for a sensless war and reaping the benefits with all of his Oil Exec


almost forgot we need to fix the problem in IRAK first but you missed that part as well jz

What problem is that? Damn dude you are all over the place!

[Ian]

Tony brought this point up before. drilling in the US will NOT make oil prices go down because we dont have enough refineries.

[shane27]

Originally Posted by Ian

Tony brought this point up before. drilling in the US will NOT make oil prices go down because we dont have enough refineries.

so we should build more, and drill in alaksa. that would make em go down

[Ian]

can't build more. EPA wont have anything to do with it.

[johnjzjz]

The whole drilling for oil thing was trashed around for 20 years and the tree hugging environmentalist movement won, so that would any company do faced with a supply change ????? they adapted into investing in other country's resources, and a dictator change here and a dictator change their later, with out ruining their country ( we don't run anybodies country ) at times it seems ours fits into that as well ---- the oil we use and need went from people we helped get rich and helped us with out being raped on pricing, to people who hate us for our system that made them rich ( Democracy ) soooo to those who know better than everyone else ( Liberal Democrat's ) we now have what is known as bushes fault hahahahhahaha right jz

[Frosty]

Well people blaming Bush for the gas prices is stupid. The thing he can be blamed for is creating an unstable environment in that area which raises concern and worry which "helps" drive the prices up, it's far from the sole reason for it. It's ******** though, it's known that Saudia Arabia has over a BILLION, yes a BILLION barrels worth of oil that hasn't been tapped yet, there is no oil shortage.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Well people blaming Bush for the gas prices is stupid. The thing he can be blamed for is creating an unstable environment in that area which raises concern and worry which "helps" drive the prices up, it's far from the sole reason for it. It's ******** though, it's known that Saudia Arabia has over a BILLION, yes a BILLION barrels worth of oil that hasn't been tapped yet, there is no oil shortage.

who was talking about oil shortage? Everytime time Opec cuts production Russians increase it so they can make more money. And since Russian oil is cheaper it works out for them. There's no shortage its just business and business wants more money. Crap, if i was a CEO of Exxon gas prices would be much higher

Oh and as stated before its not oil shortage the in the USA its that you dont have enough refineries.

[Frosty]

All the media keeps saying there's an "oil" shortage, not a gas shortage(unless we're talking about the Katrina time period) and that's just flat out ********.

It's a combo of people heavily investing in oil futures, investors uneasy about all the conflicts, the lack of refineries because of the ****ing EPA, greedy corporations etc.

I miss when gas was cheap lol

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Frosty

All the media keeps saying there's an "oil" shortage, not a gas shortage(unless we're talking about the Katrina time period) and that's just flat out ********.

It's a combo of people heavily investing in oil futures, investors uneasy about all the conflicts, the lack of refineries because of the ****ing EPA, greedy corporations etc.

I miss when gas was cheap lol

ohh i dont watch the news anymore i didnt know. Doesnt every one have reserves? so how can there be a shortage if there're reserves?


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